Digital BW, The Print

2008/9/6 Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@...>

>
> 1) Does 1440 dpi (instead of 2880) also affects the tone? I thought it
> only related to sharpness.
> (Btw, I upgraded to driver v 6.5, which has a somewhat different
> interface. The options for Dpi are "Superphoto 2880x1440 dpi" or
> "Superfine 1440x720 dpi")
>

2880 uses more ink - tone changes with printer settings.
Try both.


>
>
> 2) About Intent/Perceptual: following the advice on the site of Eric
> Chan, I
> switched off the Color Management in PS. In PS CS, which is what I
> use, that can be done by, in the Print Preview, choosing "Printer
> color management" in the Print space/Profile menu. But if I do so, the
> Intent is grayed out, so I can not set it to "Perceptual".
> So what should I do? Leave the Print preview settings as described? of
> choose some profile(which one?)and set Intent to "Perceptual"?
>
If you are not using a QTR create icc profile then don't worry about
"perceptual" etc. just do as Eric says.


>
> 3) > Its trivial to build a profile.
> By trivial, you mean easy? (sorry, english is not my native language)
>

Yes easy. Just print 51 step profile included in QTR package.
Read with spectro and then drop resulting file on QTR create ICC program
icon.
Done....


>
> Thanks,
>
> Igor
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Michael King"
> <drmrking@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ok so that recommendation is crap VFA is far too heavy ink load for HPR
> > which is why you have the shadows problem.
> > The 4800 recommendation is the following - try using that - I find
> it works
> > fine on 4800 and I am sure it will be good for 3800.
> > Watercolor Paper - Radiant White, 1440 dpi, Matte Black, Perceptual
> >
> > Without a profile set to ABW to "dark". This is approximately
> correct for a
> > gamma 2.2 image.
> >
> > If you take the trouble to build a profile use normal setting. Its
> trivial
> > to build a profile as you have a spectro and you can still use ABW
> with it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/9/6 Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@...>
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > > Did you check which paper setting is recommended for Photo Rag by
> > > Hahnemühle? I would use the same paper setting for ABW set to normal.
> > >
> > > Hahnemühle* recommends "Velvet File Art" as paper setting for all its
> > > fine art
> > > papers. So this is what I used, and wether I print with Tone/Dark,
> > > Normal or Light, the blacks remain crappy, with no or hardly visible
> > > separation between the 2 darkest steps in the wedge.
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> http://www.hahnemuehle.com/media/downloads/62/Print_Instruction_Epson.pdf
> > >
> > > > Also for a great result you need to use QTR Create ICC .
> > >
> > > Yes, they say it's good. However, I was hoping to get good results
> > > without having to engage in using a RIP and/or making ICC (which I've
> > > never done before and will cost me a lot of time to figure out). I
> > > also thought that since K3 is a widely used inkset and Photo Rag a
> > > popular paper, the right settings to use this combination had long
> > > been found by others. But maybe I can't be done, making good B&W
> > > prints with the 3800 on Photo Rag without using a RIP.
> > >
> > > Igor
> > >
> > > --- In
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
>
> > > "Michael King"
> > > <drmrking@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your problem is your paper setting.
> > > > Did you check which paper setting is recommended for Photo Rag by
> > > > Hahnemühle?
> > > > I would use the same paper setting for ABW set to normal.
> > > >
> > > > Also for a great result you need to use QTR Create ICC - Google it.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2008/9/5 Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@>
> > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just bought me a 3800 and printed some step wedges on Photo
> Rag with
> > > > > ABW. Then I measured them with a densitometer. But the results
> were
> > > > > not good. See the graph at http://www.xs4all.nl/~hc6/3800/3800.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Although the largest part of the curve is smooth, the darkest
> parts
> > > > > are bad, with no differentation between the 2 darkest steps.
> > > > >
> > > > > My settings were:
> > > > > PS CS:
> > > > > - Print space/Profile/ Printer color management.
> > > > > - Working space: gray Gamma 2.2.
> > > > >
> > > > > Epson:
> > > > > - Media type: Velvet Fine Art Paper
> > > > >
> > > > > Epson ABW:
> > > > > - Tone: Dark.
> > > > > - No further adjustments.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also did a print on Velvet Fine Art Paper, which looked
> good, but I
> > > > > want to use Photo Rag.
> > > > >
> > > > > Could anyone, please, give me the right settings for printing
> B&W on
> > > > > Photo Rag with the 3800? (if it is possible to make a good
> print on
> > > > > this paper with the 3800)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > Igor
> > > > >
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