I'm not sure where this comes from. 16 bits of data gives 2 to the power of 16 shades of grey, ie 65,536 of them. Should be plenty to divide by 17 stops, particularly as the relationship between a stop and a set of shades of grey is arbitrary - you can map them how you like with either the scanner software or Photoshop. What does surprise me is that Steve gets this from an Epson V700, however I've seen some of his images and he does undoubtedly capture a very large SBR with detail at both ends so I'm sure he's right. David Whistance -----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tom Baker Sent: 07 October 2008 22:04 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Subject Brightness Range - branch from [Digital BW] Re: Getting reasonable scan file sizes w/ MF & LF ... But, anything over 16 can't be represented in a 16 bit tiff file. \ufffd TB --- On Tue, 10/7/08, Steve Gledhill <stephengledhill@...> wrote: From: Steve Gledhill <stephengledhill@...> Subject: RE: Subject Brightness Range - branch from [Digital BW] Re: Getting reasonable scan file sizes w/ MF & LF ... To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 1:31 PM Dana, Not many images have that range \u2013 but lately I\u2019ve been photographing in cathedrals where the deep interior shadows through to the sunlit stained glass windows certainly have that challenge. So ... yes, I really do. Steve Gledhill www.virtuallygrey. co.uk <http://www.virtuall ygrey.co. uk/> From: DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Dana H. Myers Sent: 07 October 2008 21:21 To: DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Subject Brightness Range - branch from [Digital BW] Re: Getting reasonable scan file sizes w/ MF & LF ... Steve Gledhill wrote: > The next step requires the scanner to be able to scan high > density negatives \u2013 or more specifically, areas of high density \u2013 the > highlights. My Epson V700 does that for me. The scanner captures the > whole range from clear film base to the maximum density of the negative > and represents it in the TIFF file as a full range 16-bit greyscale > scan. So the huge SBR in the original scene is \u2018compressed\u2019 (via my > workflow) into the range my paper is capable of \u2013 i.e. maximum ink black > to paper white. Do you really capture 17-stops of range using a 16-bit TIFF? Dana [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: Subject Brightness Range - branch from [Digital BW] Re: Getting reasonable scan file sizes w/ MF & LF ...
2008-10-07 by David Whistance
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