Hi Paul, You asked for comments, so here goes! Actually gum was used in gum bichromate prints and carbon prints are done with a gelatin base—both gum and gelatin are colloids that are made sensitive to UV light and harden when Ammonium or Potassium Dichromate is added to them and they are allowed to dry. They can be used with any color of pigment—the more stable the pigment the more stable the print. You can also do color separations and make full color gum and carbon prints by doing 3 printings. Carbon tissue is also used in the photogravure process. Eggs can also be used as a colloid with the dichromates. Gum prints and carbon prints are two of the most stable prints known. All these processes use negatives for contact printing with UV light, so the negative has to be the size of the final print.. Currently a lot of people are making digital negatives rather than shooting large in-camera negatives or using wet process enlarged negatives. If you experiment with gum, you need something to keep it from spoiling—smells nasty then! I do primarily Platinum/Palladium printing with digital negatives and am experimenting with polymer plate photogravure, which is turning out very nicely. Sorry — don't mean to be picky, Best Wishes, Mark Nelson Precision Digital Negatives PDN Print Forum @ Yahoo! Groups Mark Nelson Photography On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:50:51 PM, pr_roark <pr_roark@...> wrote: From: pr_roark <pr_roark@...> Subject: [Digital BW] Pigment Stabilization Date: November 28, 2008 10:50:51 PM CST To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com In my latest efforts, I've been reading up on and starting to experiment with ways to increase the stability of the carbon pigments. One of the more interesting and intriquing factoids I've found is that Gum Arabic has been used to disperse and stabilize carbon inks for quite a while -- like maybe three thousand years. Yet in efforts to disperse and stabilize the latest carbon nanotubes, Gum Arabic is still one of the best. Additionally, it's safe and in lots of our foods. It is also one of the ingredients in the old carbon photographic printing process and is available from Photographers Formulary. I'll be experimenting with it and attempting to use a centrifuge to do accelerated settling testing of different pigment dilution bases and approaches. I'll post some of my latest notes and thoughts at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Pigment-Stabilization.pdf Chemists and others, please don't hesitate to correct things I've posted if they are wrong (and clearly incomplete). I make no claims to expertise here. I'm just a curious B&W photographer exploring my new medium. Paul www.PaulRoark.com -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Pigment Stabilization
2008-11-29 by ender100
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