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[Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners

2009-01-06 by outdoornm

Eric,

I'm not arguing that direct grayscaling is the best method.  I am just stating what the 
default is in my CS2.  If you do the check I mentioned it will show you that is exactly the 
case. I  have also read it elsewhere, but I can't find reference to it at this point. You guys 
need to come up with some authentication for your opinion- it sounds to me like you just 
think it is improbable. 

Personally, I choose to use direct grayscale because you can drive yourself crazy seeing 
what tweak works the best using channel mixer.  I have found it much more effective to 
convert to grayscale directly  Image>mode>Grayscale and then work on the image in 
curves.  I find it gives me much more control.  You wouldn't think so, but for me, it does. 
Like anything in Photoshop there are many ways to achieve what you want.

Regards,

Lincoln


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> 
wrote:
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> If you have PS CS3 or CS4 why would you even consider just hitting
> mode>grayscale when you could convert to B&W with image>adjustment>B&W
> complete with preset that you can load for yourself? As for just using the
> red channel? I don't think so. It just does sound right at all. 
> 
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> Just did a screen capture of a red channel only B&W, and a convert to
> grayscale screen capture and the numbers don't match. Close but not a match.
> 
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> There are default setting lurking in PS and I think that you idea about what
> is being done there is just that. I'd ask some Adobe folks about it. 
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> As for scanning, you can use the channels for sharpening, noise control, etc
> in the scanner software. It is a whole new exposure of a scene. How would
> you like to render it? That is the first question and the beauty of it is
> there is no ONE answer, but many equally valid choices.
> 
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> Eric Neilsen Photo
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> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
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> Dallas, TX 75226
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> 214 827-8301
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> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
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> SKype ejprinter
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>   _____  
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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lincoln
> Michaud
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:25 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
> 
>  
> 
> It is true that the direct conversion to greyscale from RGB in 
> Photoshop changes to the red channel. You can check this easily by: 
> converting an image to greyscale in PS by: Image>mode>grayscale. Go 
> to Edit and select 'change profile to rgb'. Go back to Mode>Channel 
> mixer and you will see that the red channel is at 100% Don't know 
> about scanners.
> 
> Lincoln
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