Digital BW, The Print

Greg wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg"
> <dfaprinting@...> wrote:
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Michael T.
>> Murphy" <uriel_bear@> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I loaded the OCP "Claria match" dye inks in a 7600 and used them for 
>>> proofing for a while:
>>>
>>>
> http://www.rjettek.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/59_108/products_id
>>> /505
>>>
> 
> 
> Just an update... OCP can not/will not sell me small samples of
> product and I'm not interested in buying 500ml of each color right
> now. I may contact RJettek and see if they will help me out. Obviously
> I am remaining extremely skeptical about the performance of the OCP
> dye inks since they suggest them to be as fade resistant as Claria.
> Maybe they did it, maybe it is just hype, but it looks like I may not
> test them at all. Too bad too because I found a place to buy Blue Wool
> test cards, and they are only about $15 each card. It may not be our
> preferred standard, but it is some kind of dose meter. I have some
> information on comparing Blue Wool steps to hours in an Atlas machine,
> but it is on my computer at home. If anyone want the information on
> Blue Wool, please change the subject line accordingly.
> 
> So at this time, I can not find much of anything about these OCP inks,
> and as such I can not put my stamp of approval on them until I test
> them for longevity.
> 
> 

OCP Germany has a web sale system but there's little 
available through it right now, lots of inks in 
"development" but that could also be related to chip issues.
http://www.ocp-online.com/

A friend got several cans of OCP compatible ink for his 9800 
to test them out. Worked perfectly, no sign of pigment 
settling in the cans either after a longer period. He wasn't 
that happy with the black density though and asked for a 
denser variety. Loaded it and in the same week the head was 
definitely lost, no way to get the black back again. He 
found it difficult to complain given the generous supply of ink.

Greg, the Vivera dye ink as used in the Designjet 130 is 
available in larger carts, 69 ml HP 85 cart, 45 Eurocents ex 
VAT a ML (0,60 $ ?). Not a third party price but at least 
Wilhelm and Image Engineering tested them, choices of 
suitable paper limited but that will not be different with 
Claria. The Designjet 130 uses a 6 color system.  It is an 
experiment to use them in an Epson dye printer but given 
Paul's experience with the Vivera pigment worked well so far 
.......
A similar choice is available for Epson Durabrite inks, the 
desktop models have small carts but there are now two new A4 
office models with larger carts, B500DN and B300. Durabrite 
inks in carts from 57 to almost 200 ML (the last black 
only). I have no idea what they will cost a ML in the US but 
it could be another ink source for cheaper Durabrite printer 
models.

-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst


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