Bob Marsolais wrote: > I have also been experimenting with HP-PK, only mixing it with Paul's C6 > base. I've mixed 30/70 and 9/91 (LPK and LLPK) . Both of them have higher > gloss than the IS equivalents. I've also mixed a sepia using only IS inks > for the R1800 (Y, M, and glop). The sepia has the lowest gloss level of > them all. I have a hunch the glop you used to mix the HP-PK is actually > holding down the gloss of the final mixture. The HP-PK pigments are coated > and by themselves are very glossy. If glop has lower gloss than the HP > pigments (which my tests seem to indicate), the GO will reduce the HP > pigment's gloss on paper. > > > > By the way, the GO I am using is IS (Image Specialists) GO. The coating on the Vivera pigment particles isn't enough to get an equal gloss in all tone ranges on glossy paper. The gloss enhancer in the Z3100 ink set isn't always making a better gloss on all spots of a gloss paper, the bare gloss paper usually has more gloss than with the GE covering it. But at least with the GE the gloss differential is gone over the entire image. It also depends on the quantity of the gloss enhancer applied, too much gives the surface some gloss texture, the "varnish" isn't smooth in a way. Varying the GE/Glop amount independently of the other inks (which is possible in a RIP like QTR and my Wasatch RIP), is something that should be explored. Using a slightly different gloss enhancer/equaliser in the mix than the ink medium is used to may make differences in the way the varnish/medium behaves when it dries. The bonder/medium in the Glop is most likely a PVA or gelatin and there are different hydrolysis grades of both available. Chemically almost the same but with other molecule structures. I think the skin formation is quite complex and depends on several factors. It has to be seen whether the Z3100 GE is better as a "gloss" diluting medium too, the way it is applied right now is different to mixing it with an ink. Writing this with a gloss dye print of a Fuji Dry Minilab to my left side, collected from the last Photokina. Epson inkjet technology in that machine. Ignoring the other aspects of dye, the decision to use dye ink delivers a problem free, homogene high gloss. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
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Re: [Digital BW] Re:HP PK with glop & gloss differential
2009-03-02 by Ernst Dinkla
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