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Re: [Digital BW] Iris Printers, was: Running into inkjet work....

2002-02-14 by SKID Photography

Ron,
What gave you the idea that I have not had any first hand experience in dealing
with Improved Technologies?  In fact, I have dealt with them directly and got
nothing but double speak from their in house ink person who was, as I recall,
presented to me as the most knowledgeable person in their company regarding the
Chromazone Inks.  The person I spoke with was totally ignorant of their
product.  Including telling me that their 'pigmented' inks were dye based!

I do not discount your good experience with them, but mine was terrible, and
showed a complete lack of understanding of their products as well as others on
the market.  At the time that I spoke with them, I had not settled on the
Indelibles, but if my memory serves me correctly (and it might not), it ends up
that the Chromazone inks are a 'rebranded' form of another ink, showed
metamerism, and are a hybrid of pigment and dye.  Which would certainly explain
a better gamut, but also indicate less long-term stability.

So I stand by what I said, I.T., in my opinion has a bad reputation based on not
only on my experience, (and the un-named person you mentioned), but also others
on the Epson 2000P, Epson-Inkjet Leben and Epson 9000 lists.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC.


>  Harvey,
>
> With all respect, I think you're speaking badly of Improved Technologies
> (IT) without any first-hand experience.  Not that I feel the need to defend
> them, but I'd merely like to offer a different viewpoint from a different
> perspective, that of one of their customers.
>
> Prior to acquiring the tools to do my own printing, I had work done for many
> years by a number of print-makers who use IRIS and/or IXIA printers.  IMHO,
> they are still king of the inkjet printers, regardless of what the specs
> say.  In the hands of a skilled operator, the output is unbeatable.  And, IT
> has made significant improvements with the IXIA.
>
> I spent many months researching my LF printer purchase, and decided to go
> with the IT I-JET printer for a number of reasons, not the least of which
> was personal recommendations from my former printers, that IT was a company
> I could count on for quality technology, service, and support.  This has
> been my experience with them for the past year.
>
> Regarding the Chromazone inks, I know that you're a big fan of the
> Indelibles, this somewhat surprising since you haven't even used them yet,
> but contrary to your opinion of the Chromazones, they are a great inkset.
> As I mentioned in a previous post, I have built profiles for both Indelibles
> and the Chromazone pigs using the Gretag Spectralino and Monaco Profiler,
> and the Chromazone pigments have a slightly larger color gamut.  I'd be
> willing to bet that longevity and metamerism are quite comparable as well.
> I have no doubt that the Indelibles are a great inkset, and I hope you have
> as good of an experience using them as I have had using the Chromazones.
>
> I know of the person whom you have received bad reviews of IT and the
> Chromazone inks from, and believe this person is upset with IT, and
> consequently trashing them, since they didn't give him a printer in exchange
> for some of his prints.  What a ridiculous proposal that was from the start.
>
> These lists are a great resource but often the source of bad information.  I
> urge you to report on what you have first-hand experience with.  Myself, and
> many others, would disagree with your reporting of IT having *terrible*
> reputation, and your assessment of the IRIS/IXIA technology is way off base
> too.
>
> Ron Landucci
>
>
> David,
> Interestingly, the stated dpi for the IXIA is only 300.  I tried going to
> the
> 'specs list', and the page loaded as code.  IXIA is not very impressive,
> despite
> their statement that the 'perceived' dpi is much greater.  Sounds to me like
> the
> 'Emperor's New Clothes'.  ;-)
>
> Also, IT technologies who bought the 'dated' technology license from Scitex
> (or
> Microtek) has a *terrible* reputation!  These are the guys who bring us
> 'Chromazone Inks', which were discussed a couple of months ago, and
> thoroughly
> trashed by the lists.
>
> Harvey Ferdschneider
> partner, SKID Photography, NYC
>
>
>
>





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