Digital BW, The Print

well you might try it over an HTM environment then, at least that won't allow so much color ink down the neutral axis.
At this point I have different environments/profiles made different ways and from different software, even just for one paper, because nothing does it all...
I blew a good month and too much paper on every conceivable way of tweaking Monaco, and the nature of the ink setups sent to it. I found ways to mess it up, but nothing suddenly made it jump out of it's skin into abnormally magical performance. It does what it does very well, visually stunning perceptual color rendering, particularly on matte.
Nothing that I've seen touches GPS for the neutrals, and as you note perceptual matte paper renderings are it's weakness.
There's just no end to throwing money at this stuff...
Tyler


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "meeshieck" <michal@...> wrote:
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> Tyler,
> I used to have ColorGPS, but I was running different trial versions of it. back then it was all about the color and matte papers, so I didn't really test it that much for B&W. and for color, monaco won by a landslide. now I do have the platinum version of monaco, so the control of K is well taken care of. it's just that those damn inks come out a bit greenish on glossy papers (especially the lights) and I can't quite figure out a way to compensate for that...
> I haven't got into tuning profiles just yet, I've left it for dessert. I want to squeeze from patches as much as possible, so the tuning can be a finishing touch, rather than building the workflow on it.
> 
> thanks,
> m.
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@> wrote:
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> > Michal, as much as I like Monaco, I don't think the neutral axis build is it's strong suit. Do I recall that you also have GPS? It's neutral build is far superior, though for color images, perceptual conversions, Monaco is really great particularly for matte papers.
> > I assume you are using as much GCR as possible? I was disappointed in the black curve options in Profiler Gold and did the best I could to make a custom curve straight line, though it won't take K all the way up the scale. I hear Platinum might have more K curve control.
> > I don't know if more patches is going to help, it just uses a lot of color ink in the neutral axis which is going to be hard to make perfect B&W from, but that's also how it makes great full saturation dark color transitions.
> > Have you tried the tuning functions? I believe Walker told me he tunes all his Monaco profiles...
> > Tyler
> > http://www.custom-digital.com/
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