I see, thanks. I hadn't realized that the first images you presented were magnified so greatly (though you did say that you used a macro lens). Andrew On 06/22/2009 09:27 AM, Roger wrote: > > > > Hi Andrew, > Thanks for the reply. > > These were shots of 4x6 inch prints in matte paper. I checked the Exif > and the camera was at ISO 100 for shooting the prints. It's possible I > underexposed them. I think these shots do a reasonable job at showing > the difference in "grain" between the two prints (the 3MK prints aren't > bad, mind you but much rougher than UTR2 or the original files). > > Two of the original shots were also at ISO 100 and both look fairly > smooth (at reasonable magnifications- up to 8x12 inch or so): > > http://www.jingai.com/photography/NHWedding/photos/20080628_Liza_Wedding__Image_0001_54.jpg > <http://www.jingai.com/photography/NHWedding/photos/20080628_Liza_Wedding__Image_0001_54.jpg> > > http://www.jingai.com/photography/NHWedding/photos/20080628_Liza_Wedding__Image_0001_111.jpg > <http://www.jingai.com/photography/NHWedding/photos/20080628_Liza_Wedding__Image_0001_111.jpg> > > Roger > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>, Andrew Sharpe > <asharpe@...> wrote: >> >> There seems to be a lot of noise in both, but I agree that the UT2 looks >> better and has less noise. Were these shot at high ISOs? >> >> Andrew >> >> >> On 06/21/2009 08:15 PM, Roger wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > After being content with the UTR2 inkset on a R220 for a few years I >> > stepped up to an R1800 a while ago and tried the 3MK workflow. >> > >> > I printed a 11x14 wedding album with it and am generally happy with the >> > results, but for shots that call for smoothness (fog, skies, etc) it >> > doesn't look nearly as good as UTR2. I'm wondering if the results I am >> > getting are typical for this inkset. >> > >> > I don't have a flatbed scanner so the following were shot on my 20D with >> > a macro lens (forgive any color artifacts, etc this introduced). >> > >> > Here are a few shots to illustrate the difference: >> > >> > http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/fogUTR2.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/fogUTR2.jpg> >> > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/fogUTR2.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/fogUTR2.jpg>> >> > vs >> > http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/fog3mk.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/fog3mk.jpg> >> > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/fog3mk.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/fog3mk.jpg>> >> > >> > Take a look at the skin tones and sky: >> > http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/kissUTR2.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/kissUTR2.jpg> >> > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/kissUTR2.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/kissUTR2.jpg>> >> > vs >> > http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/kiss3MK.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/kiss3MK.jpg> >> > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/kiss3MK.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/kiss3MK.jpg>> >> > >> > http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/dressUTR2.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/dressUTR2.jpg> >> > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/dressUTR2.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/dressUTR2.jpg>> >> > and >> > http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/dress3MK.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/dress3MK.jpg> >> > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/dress3MK.jpg > <http://jingai.com/phototests/BW%20tests/dress3MK.jpg>> >> > >> > Does this look normal to you? >> > Thanks, >> > Roger >> > >> > >> > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Does this look right for 3MK on a R1800?
2009-06-24 by Andrew Sharpe
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