Digital BW, The Print

Jimmy,

We're all going to be using you forever no matter what they do because you are the man and keep up with it all!

If 44" Photorag rolls are only going up 8 that is nothing and certainly not worth fussing about here. I guess they are trying to discourage sheets altogether. But your right Crane, Innova etc are giving 10 more feet per roll so all that has to be considered along with consistency from batch to batch.

With K7 I'm seeing dmax of 1.67 for Prag. With the Z3100 it is 1.8 and 2.38 for the PRag Baryta. I don't know why Canson is charging so much for BFK. Maybe people have never seen it before. It used to be the basic paper for silk screen etc. I can't imagine it being more desirable than William Turner or Museum Etching with that dmax. 

john




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle@...> wrote:
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> Hey Gang
>  
> Yes Hahnemuhle is having an increase! That's for sure.. I see All types
> of crazy stuff.. Big Flat Sheets Up So Much I cant even describe..I am
> still trying to figure it out myself..
>  
> A 24 x 39 roll of HPR 308 is rising by 15 dollars If I remember correct.
> But a 44 inch roll is only like 8.. while 8.5 x 11 sheets went down..
> This is the most insANE THING I HAVE EVER SEEN..
>  
> No I just want you all to remember one thing  Hahnemuhle is a 39' foot
> roll while Innova ( act is way better than 2 yrs ago) Museo & Canson all
> are 50" feet
>  
> As a general broadcast if you want to go over your  product either email
> or call me and you know I do my best for you guys & Gals...( some free
> samples If Needed as Long as some pays shipping- Sheet Or two)
>  
> To me this is puzzling for sure just like it must be for all of you..
> Not to mention way to much work!
>  
> Thanks Again to all of my awesome customers!~
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Jim Doyle
>  
> Shades Of Paper
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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Patrick Carr
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:36 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemuhle options
>  
>   
> Terry Ritz wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I really like Canson Rag Photographique, which is similar to HPR.
> > Photographique is the sharpest matte paper I've ever used. I'm getting
> a
> > Dmax of 1.63 with a custom Cone curve and K7 Special Edition inks. The
> paper
> > has a nice weight and is reasonably priced.
> > 
> > I'm also using Canson BFK Rives. It is slightly warmer, and has a very
> nice,
> > yet subtle, texture. Dmax with Cone curve and K7 is 1.59.
> > 
> > Canson also makes an etching paper, along with a number of other
> textured
> > offerings.
> > 
> > Terry.
> > 
> 
> I've also started using Photographique--a beautiful paper, but I'm not 
> seeing the similarity to HPR. To my eye Photographique is much whiter 
> (no OBAs) and a bit softer . . . I'm using the K7 SE too. Guess I'll 
> look into purchasing a custom curve.
> 
> Yes, their other papers are also quite nice but very expensive.
> 
> Patrick Carr
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> Carr Imaging
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