Frank and everyone,
I am scanning on a Minolta Multi-Pro also (which I bought in
November), and am very pleased with it overall, including for
color negative/ conversion to B&W. I'm using a Mac G4, OS 9.1,
1.12 gigs of ram, B&W output with Cone software and inks on an
Epson 1160.
I'm using Fuji Superia 200 and 400, the 4-layer Reala-based
"amateur" film, dip and dunk processed. I'm glad to hear the
Portra works also; I can't say which is better, not having used the
Portra. I've also heard that Kodak Supra is supposed to be
optimized for scanning. I have scanned some older Fuji NPH
film, and I agree that it doesn't seem to scan very well with the
Minolta software...it's sharp but grainy, and seems to come out
better with Vuescan software.
For scanning silver-based B&W film, I've found the Minolta
software, when using the B&W settings, to also be very grainy
looking (when I look at it at 100%, it looks like flecks of black &
silver-grey, and very clumpy). However, I've found that if I scan
silver-based B&W films using the Color Negative setting on the
Minolta software, and then select only for the green channel, I get
excellent results.
I've also used Vuescan, and the newly completed 7.5 version
does scan well (stay away from the 7.5 betas and 7.4 versions of
VS with the Multi-Pro) - and gives perhaps an even sharper scan
than Minolta's software. On another site, I recently posted
suggested directions for using the firewire Multi Pro (and Minolta
Elite II) with VS 7.5 and Mac OS9.1 - though it is complicated.
The Minolta scanner/Firewire/Vuescan 7.5 combination works
fine for me.
Minolta's software is very intuitive and Vuescan is not; I've
needed to do a lot of experimenting to really make VS work for
me. However, I think Minolta's software can be very troublesome
in one area; selection of Black and White end-points on the scan
exposure; a problem than VS does not have. There is a way to at
least partially correct for this in Minolta's software, but it is not
obvious, and is buried in the help files.
I am posting the Minolta Auto-Exposure workarounds, and my
recommendations for using VS 7.5/Minolta firewire scanner/Mac
OS 9.1, below:
A. Message about controlling exposure functions with Minolta
software.
I too have a Minolta Multi-Pro (MMP) and I have loved it since I
bought it in early November. It functions beautifully with both the
Minolta software, and with the new Vuescan 7.5 (non-beta; the
beta versions should be avoided for the MMP). The Minolta
software is very intuitive, but there are two tricks to optimizing it:
1. After Prescan, do a manual focus before final scan (I get
considerably sharper scans with manual than auto focus).
2. With some scans, after the prescan, you can potentially
improve your scan by selecting a specific area of the image to
determine the final exposure. This is not so obvious, and
requires using the AE AREA LOCK and AE LOCK buttons, which
are on the prescan tab. The instructions are under the Minolta
help menu (under Auto Exposure). I've clipped & pasted the
instructions:
AE AREA LOCK
The AE area in auto exposure adjusting mode can be changed
and the exposure of that area is adjusted automatically with this
function.
<How To>
1. Press the Shift key. The AE area is indicated in line instead
of the cropping area indicated in dashed line.
2. While pressing down the Shift key, change the AE area. The
operation is the same as that of changing the cropping area
except that the Shift key should be used.
AE LOCK
AE settings for the current prescan are saved and applied to
subsequent prescan.
<How To>
1. When a prescan scan is made, the AEL button becomes
available.
2. Click on the AEL button.
B. Message about Vuescan 7.5/Minolta Firewire Scanner/Mac
OS 9.1:
For everyone with a Multi Pro wishing to use Vuescan (VS)on a
Mac with OS 9.1. The real VS 7.5 (non-beta) now works and it
works fine (though with occasional crashes; Hamrick may refine
it a little more in future) with the Multi-Pro (and also for the Scan
Elite II). (But don't even try to use any of the beta versions of 7.5,
or 7.4 for that matter; you'll only frustrate yourself and waste a lot
of time.)
However, there are some tricks to using VS with the Minolta
firewire scanners....
1. All the Minolta files must be removed from the
Systems/Extensions folder. I've made a folder to hold them.
These are:
DS Elite Library
MCM Library
MFSBaseLib2887
MFSFWDriver
MFSFWExpLoader
MFSFWFamily
MFSLib2887
2. If you use Photoshop, the Minolta Plug-In must be removed
from Photoshop's plug-in folder.
3. Then reboot your computer (because you have removed
extensions).
Note: You will not be able to use Minolta's proprietary scanning
software once the extensions and plug-in it requires are
removed, until you have re-installed them and re-booted again.
4. When scanning with Vuescan, I highly recommend that you
close all other programs and devices, including modem,
photoshop, word processor(especially the word processor!), etc.
5. I often find that I have to open and close Vuescan several
times until it recognizes the scanner.
6. Assign lots of ram/memory to VS - I give it 250 megs.
Vuescan does work great with the Multi-Pro, once you get it up
and running, and once you learn to use VS effectively (it is not
intuitively easy to use like Minolta's software is). VS does seem
to still have a bug in the cropping function that can make it hard
to select crop areas; I found I had to experiment for awhile before
I could get it to work for me.
Good luck, and best wishes,
James Lerager
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "culturalvisions"
<frank@c...> wrote:
> Photolunch crashed while I was uploading my test scans. My
> server changed the proceedure and did not tell me. I wiped out
> most of the site and have to rebuild it. I will send you my scan
> tests if you email me directly.
>
> I have discovered a lot of info on line. Unfortunately, my
> bookmarks are spread out amongst 3 computers so I can't
give
> you easy links to the multitude of sites I have found. One off
the
> top of my head is
>
> http://www.robgalbraith.com
>
> Go to forums>scanners
>
> I have seen comparison tests done with slides that show the
> Minolta to be superior to Nikon or Polaroid. The Minolta looks
> sharper and very clean in the shadows.
>
> Unfortunately for Minolta, on this list, we are interested in B+W.
> My tests with C-41 negative film shows the Nikon to come out
> much cleaner in the shadows and less blown out in the
> highlights. But, the Minolta is sharper.
>Message
Re: [Digital BW] 120 Film Scanners Compared
2002-02-17 by jlerager
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