Digital BW, The Print

One of the primary reasons I had standardized  on Photorag 308 is that it was working universally great with all inks. The neutral monochrome prints were designed to be perfectly neutral on that paper from the beginning and the color gamut and dmax for color work beat everything else. The only thing I didn't do on it was sepia monochrome.

john



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla <edinkla@...> wrote:
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> john schreef:
> > I believe you, I just have looked for problems and never found any here.
> > 
> > 
> > I was trying to find bw data on Wilhem's site but Hahnemuhe  and Canson only paid for color tests so we don't have that info to compare with Hp Vivera Photorag and Epson K3 ABW black and white tests on Premier Art rag. Thats very unfortunate.
> > 
> > But on a side note - the Hahnemuhle color tests with K3 show the same figures for Photorag and Museum Etching for color. But that isn't what I wanted to see. 
> > 
> > john
> 
> We still use HPR. There has been the yellowing but it was an obvious 
> case of air pollution indoors, a thing that happend about ten years ago 
> and since then we know the issue but I have yet to see a customer that 
> complained about it. It doesn't change color here and Eindhoven isn't 
> known for its pure air in the Netherlands.
> 
> There have been issues in the past with both Photorag and German Etching 
> .... coatings not even, high flaking grade, roll start embossing through 
> layers, but that has been a thing of the past or is solved to a high 
> degree. For example 3"rolls with a parallel core winding was an improvement.
> 
> The HP Hahenmühle Smooth fine Art Paper is quite similar to Photorag but 
> is 265 gr/m2 and has a slightly more natural color. I do not see a 
> better image quality compared to Photorag but there are other opinions.
> 
> The few times I have replaced Photorag with Innova were not that 
> successful, waves in the coating at one side of 44" rolls for example 
> and that was for the total batch, had to wait for replacement rolls. But 
> t looks like things improved there too.
> 
> Intellicoat had some art papers before they started the distribution of 
> Crane and they still have them in their catalogue.  Magiclée Verona High 
> Definition Rag 300. Anyone familiar with that paper? There were some 
> prints on that paper on the Photokina 2008 and just on eyesight it 
> looked very good. Got an award quite recently.
> 
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