This might be a bit OT , but I guess that I'm a bit surprised that it seems most everyone is using HPR. I used to use that paper, but I tried Cranes Museo Portfolio Rag a couple of years ago, and to my eye (or perhaps my printing style), I found the Crane's to be a bit more three dimensional, with excellent blacks, and actually prefer it to HPR. I'm using the Ultrachrome K3 inkset, but I'm printing both color and b&w and sepia, through Imageprint, with great results. Anyone else happy with that paper? I did have a few yellowing instances with HPR, that I've never had with the Cranes. David -- David Aschkenas 915 N. Euclid Ave. Pittsburgh, PA 15206 412-363-3458 www.daschkenasphoto.com On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Brubaker family wrote: > Tyler, > Is there a current paper that you would recommend to be considered > as the "benchmark"? > > --- On Sun, 12/6/09, tboleyyh <tyler@...> wrote: > > From: tboleyyh <tyler@...> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Aardenburg Imaging Fade Tests > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 7:26 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, "Mark" > <mark@...> wrote: > > > >> ....it's the coating adhesion and coating chemistry interacting >> with the ink where all the action is!.. > > > > This has to be stressed over and over. All you have to do is go > through the results, and see the differences between the various > high end fine art papers with the same ink sets. Some consistencies > take shape, and the major difference has to be brand coating > chemistry differences. > > Even though it is currently scoring fairly well, but > inconsistently, this is one reason I wish HPR was NOT the paper we > use to look for inkset performance differences. As a printer for > others, I have had a lot of HPR go though my studio since it's > introduction into the market. It is the most problematic paper I > have ever worked with in terms of consistency, paper base hue and > whiteness, dmax, ink load capability, etc... In addition, the > yellowing associated with the visible creation of some sulfur > compound in reaction to the coating and certain airborne chemicals > seems much more common with HPR than other papers. > > This has nothing to do with Mark, he tests what's submitted. 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Aardenburg Imaging Fade Tests
2009-12-07 by David Aschkenas
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