Digital BW, The Print

Austin, you would seem to be the person who could accurately answer this question:

I think the claims of some of the desktop scanners are bordering on
fable-spinning.  What is the maximum density you could actually get out
of a color slide? I've heard that no scanner in the world could actually
get a 4.0 density range, and it is very difficult to actually get more
than about 3.2.

Jerry




Austin Franklin wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> > I saw first hand 24"x30" color images taken by Vincent Versace with a
> > Nikon D1x and then printed on an Epson 10000 on Epson (Crane) Rough
> > Fine Art paper. The prints were outstanding, color sharpness, detail,
> > etc.
> 
> Digital prints ARE sharp, as they should be, but how can you tell it had
> "detail" (reflecting the actual scene imaged) without having seen the
> original scene, or having compared it to a film image of the same scene?
> 
> > Last night we compared the exact same image shot on a D30 and Fuji
> > Provia then scanned and printed on the same Epson 2000P. No lack of
> > detail was evident.
> 
> Can you please post the images...in their entirety?  Also, please list what
> scanner was used, and what lense(s) these were shot with.  I can give you
> the address of my FTP server to post them to if you don't have the disk
> space.
> 
> > Perhaps you can prove scientifically that film is better,
> 
> Scientifically doesn't matter to me, what matters is comparing actual
> images, and if the chosen "technique" provides the required results.  I've
> been comparing digital images with film images for two decades...from low to
> high end digital capture sources.  That's why I can say with reasonable
> authority that real detail is not there in these small sensor cameras.  Yes,
> for smaller prints, you can't see a difference, because that level of detail
> isn't resolved...and that's where digital does work very well.
> 
> > Sure T-Max 100
> > can capture 22 stops of light, but the papers we print on are limited
> > to much less.
> 
> Not if you print digitally, there is no limit to the number of stops you can
> print.  BTW, who says they can get 22 stops out of T-Max 100?  I really
> don't believe that's possible, since I believe that would be a dMax of 6.6
> (log 2**22).
> 
> Austin
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