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Re: Have you had this experience?

2010-02-07 by richardeskin

I had the same problem with my Dell 2280 Flat Panel Ultrasharp. With the i1 Display calibration tool from x-rite, in Advanced mode, I was able to calibrate the luminosity down to 80 rather than the recommended 120. On the monitor brightness menu this was only about 18 on a scale to 100, but it creates a much closer match between the monitor and the print, although for all other purposes, the monitor seems relatively dim.  It is my understanding that not all monitor calibration tools allow you to adjust the luminosity to a consistent and specified level.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tony Sleep <TonySleep@...> wrote:
>
> On 06/02/2010 David Kachel wrote:
> > But with B&W I find that though print color is usually within a 
> > single point of correct, contrast and density (brightness if you 
> > prefer) don't look right in the print unless they look way over the 
> > top on the monitor.
> 
> Two thoughts:
> 
> I think it's a common experience that mono images render a little flatter 
> on paper than they appear on screen. This is especially the case if the 
> black point is not sufficiently clipped to give a decent amount of L0. 
> Monitors obscure the difference, compressing the very darkest tones so 
> that they appear pretty much black, even with calibration.
> 
> I think this divergence is much more pronounced with LCD's, which are 
> usually so bright and contrasty that profiling still leaves a gulf between 
> screen and print. It is difficult or impossible to restrain many to the 
> ~100 Cd/m necessary, and glossy screens are hopeless. Even proof preview 
> using the paper profile and 'paper colour' selected then isn't very accurate.
> 
> Personally I'm still using a 2004 Sony G420 CRT for imaging because I 
> simply cannot afford a 1000GBP Lacie, NEC or Eizo LCD. I also work in a 
> room without daylight, so I can control ambient light - it is my old wet 
> darkroom so I still have the window shutters. I see colleagues using Dell, 
> Apple Cinema LCD's etc, and they look fantastic and impressive. But in 
> too-bright rooms, and with the intense rendition they give, they are much 
> further away from print.
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Tony Sleep
> http://tonysleep.co.uk
>

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