Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Thread

New to Group, How best to convert Epson 2000P to B&W

Re:New to Group, How best to convert Epson 2000P to B&W

2010-06-03 by wolf d herold

John,

I've been printing B&W with a 2000P for a couple of years using the 
MIS UT-FS and UT-FSN inksets in the color cart position and Eboni in 
the black slot from MIS.

http://www.inksupply.com/bwpage.cfm

I mostly print on matte paper.

This method/workflow was 'developed' by Paul Roark who will probably 
chime in, as well.
I think this is one of the better ways to use this 'ancient' printer.

Wolf


-- 
w-d herold
http://www.wolfsview.com

Re: [Digital BW] Re:New to Group, How best to convert Epson 2000P to B&W

2010-06-03 by John K Stacy

Thanks Wolf!!  I understand there are two inksets, neutral and "warm".  I assume the neutral is pure grayscale with no color cast.  The "warm" would have a slight brownish cast???

You say you use both, do you just change carts when you want to switch??

Thx for the info!!!

John
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: wolf d herold 
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:31 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Digital BW] Re:New to Group, How best to convert Epson 2000P to B&W


  
John,

I've been printing B&W with a 2000P for a couple of years using the 
MIS UT-FS and UT-FSN inksets in the color cart position and Eboni in 
the black slot from MIS.

http://www.inksupply.com/bwpage.cfm

I mostly print on matte paper.

This method/workflow was 'developed' by Paul Roark who will probably 
chime in, as well.
I think this is one of the better ways to use this 'ancient' printer.

Wolf

-- 
w-d herold
http://www.wolfsview.com




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Digital BW] Re:New to Group, How best to convert Epson 2000P to B&W

2010-06-04 by wolfherold

John,

>
> Thanks Wolf!!  I understand there are two inksets, neutral and "warm".  I assume the neutral is pure grayscale with no color cast.  The "warm" would have a slight brownish cast???

yes, that's correct - in principle. The "color/intensity" of the brownish cast depends somewhat on the paper used, the "neutral" on paper and personal interpretation of "neutral".

 
> You say you use both, do you just change carts when you want to switch??

I don't change carts, usually, rather stick with one until empty. Changing carts is possible, but one would have to go through a (couple of) cleaning cycle(s) to get all of the remaining ink out of the printhead.

Wolf
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> 
> Thx for the info!!!
> 
> John
> 
>

Re: New to Group, How best to convert Epson 2000P to B&W

2010-06-06 by Paul

"Gourdfather" <John_K_Stacy@...> wrote:

> I'm about to jump into B&W printing.  I have an Epson Photo Stylus 2000P that I would like to convert to a GOOD B&W printer....where do I start???

As Wolf indicated, the UT-FS is the inkset  I set up for the  2000P.  My write-up on it is at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/2000P-FS-Readme.htm

I had a 2000P and found it to be a reliable machine -- unlike  the 1280s I had.  The 2000P does have a larger drop size than the 1280, so using low gamut, monotone or low gamut dual-tone inksets is going to work best.

The various inksets I discuss at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/ and http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Inkset-list.html can often be used on many different Epson printers.  However, if you're just starting out, it's a major  advantage to have profiles that have been pre-made for the specific inkset  and printer.  The MIS UT-FS/N are the only ones I made profiles for.

The profiles  I made take the form of Photoshop curves.  These can, however, be dropped into ICCs using QTR's "Create ICC-RGB."  See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Embedding_Photoshop_Curves_in_ICCs.pdf

By doing this, you can "linearize" the curves for new papers.  It also makes  the workflow "color managed" with respect to relative  densities.

Once you get down the learning curve a bit, the 100% carbon workflows I use these days can be used on teh 2000P.  As long as you can find  good cartridges for it, the printer itself is a capable machine.

Good luck with your B&W.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Re: New to Group, How best to convert Epson 2000P to B&W

2010-06-06 by John K Stacy

Thanks Paul,  coming from "the Master", what more can I ask!!!  I'll get everything printed out, downloads downloaded and order my inksets.  I'll probably scream "HELP" at some point, but I'll try and limit my cries for assistance.

Thanks,

John
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: Paul 
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:54 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: New to Group, How best to convert Epson 2000P to B&W


  

"Gourdfather" <John_K_Stacy@...> wrote:

> I'm about to jump into B&W printing. I have an Epson Photo Stylus 2000P that I would like to convert to a GOOD B&W printer....where do I start???

As Wolf indicated, the UT-FS is the inkset I set up for the 2000P. My write-up on it is at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/2000P-FS-Readme.htm

I had a 2000P and found it to be a reliable machine -- unlike the 1280s I had. The 2000P does have a larger drop size than the 1280, so using low gamut, monotone or low gamut dual-tone inksets is going to work best.

The various inksets I discuss at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/ and http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Inkset-list.html can often be used on many different Epson printers. However, if you're just starting out, it's a major advantage to have profiles that have been pre-made for the specific inkset and printer. The MIS UT-FS/N are the only ones I made profiles for.

The profiles I made take the form of Photoshop curves. These can, however, be dropped into ICCs using QTR's "Create ICC-RGB." See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Embedding_Photoshop_Curves_in_ICCs.pdf

By doing this, you can "linearize" the curves for new papers. It also makes the workflow "color managed" with respect to relative densities.

Once you get down the learning curve a bit, the 100% carbon workflows I use these days can be used on teh 2000P. As long as you can find good cartridges for it, the printer itself is a capable machine.

Good luck with your B&W.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.