Digital BW, The Print

From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 6:30 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 4George De Wolfe - GF usage


> Julian,
>
> I am sorry to report that George has left the group as well as the
> Piezo group overwhelmed by the volume of posts the two lists
> generates and the demands of his own schedule. He is still on the
> Piezo Pro list, which I gather is by invitation only. He will be
> missed. He is a great guy. If you go back to one of his posts on this
> list, open it, and click on his e-mail address you can send him a
> message directly. I would say your chances of an answer are high.
>
> In the meantime I will take a shot at your questions:
>
> I believe that he wants you get the exact optical resolution out of
> the scanner. Genuine Fractals will no a much better job of resampling
> your files that any resampling software either Vuescan, Silverfast or
> whatever. I think he is speaking of resampling not resizing.
>
> I am not quite following your next quesion and you may be mixing scan
> dpi, final print dpi and print size. The important thing is the scan
> dpi. If you don't resample, the file size stays the same no matter
> what the print size is.
>
> I have not worked with GF but from what I have read this is a step
> you would apply just prior to printing and would not necessarily save
> to your primary file but perhaps to a print file for a specific sized
> print.
>
> I would take a raw scan from Vuescan, resize it without resampling in
> PS, do all your manipulations, save this as a master file. Prior to
> printing resample using GF, sharpen if desired and then print.
>
> I know George is a big fan of Silverfast and I like it too. That
> doesn't mean you can't accomplish the same things with different
> tools and workflows. Since you will have both, you can try it each
> way.
>
> Hope some of that helps.
>
> Martin
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas"
> <julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > Hi George,
> > After my qs to the list re what to do with an epson 1680, I've now
> got your
> > article from Camera Arts. I have 2 questions: why do you say that
> it is
> > important not to allow the scanner software to set a size, but to
> output at
> > 100% and resize in GF? Also why is Silverfast so vital as opposed to
> > something like Vuescan?
> > I normally use only BW 35 film (now changing), printing to Piezo. I
> scan at
> > 4000dpi 16bit 'raw' and allow Vuescan to give me a file sized at
> about 12in
> > max width (about a 20meg file). I then save in GF and up or down
> the size
> > slightly from there. I used to use an older version of Silverfast
> (which I
> > paid for!!) but wasn't happy with the raw scans.
> >
> > Julian
> > -----------------------------------
> > Julian Thomas
> > Bruc 168-6-1
> > 08037 Barcelona
> >
> > tfno 679676321
>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Antonis Ricos" <antonisphoto@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 8:20 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 4George De Wolfe - GF usage


For the sake of anyone else following this thread and George's 
recommendations regarding Genuine Fractals, here is an older message of 
his from the Piezo list:


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  Message 8354 of 8396
From: "George DeWolfe" <dewolfe@m...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2001 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: [piezoBW] Piezography and Genuine Fractals



OK,OK
If you have a drum scanner, you don't need Genuine Fractals. 
You will need it for the Imacon Flextite, however, if you go up to 
16x20, because it's not a true drum. If you have any other type of 
scanner - flatbed with transparency unit or film scanner, and you 
are scanning negatives or transparencies - you need Genuine 
Fractals. 

This is how I scan:

1)  Scan 4x5 @ 100% with a minimum of 720ppi.
      Scan 120 @ 100% with a minimum of 1000ppi.
      Scan 35mm @  100% at maximum scanner optical            
resolution.
2)  Edit image.
3)  Save As Genunine Fractals and "fractal up" to the size print 
you want, at the original resolution(the one at which you 
scanned). At 16x20 or 13x19 your files will be large(some of 
mine are 200+ MB). You CAN Unsharp Mask a small amount 
after "fractaling up."

I have Genuine Fractals Print Pro version, but the smaller 
Genuine Fractals works ok, too. The only difference is that the 
smaller GF handles only grayscale and RGB files, while the Print 
Pro version includes CMYK and Lab.

John Santoro at Apple told me about this software when it first 
came out. I couldn't live without it on my "ordinary" Espon 
1640XL.

Buy it!

George
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Otherwise, Julian, I think Martin's answer covers your GF question.

Antonis



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> Julian,
> 
> I am sorry to report that George has left the group as well as the 
> Piezo group overwhelmed by the volume of posts the two lists 
> generates and the demands of his own schedule.
[....]
> Martin
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas" 
> <julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > Hi George,
> > After my qs to the list re what to do with an epson 1680, I've now 
> got your
> > article from Camera Arts. I have 2 questions: why do you say that 
> it is
> > important not to allow the scanner software to set a size, but to 
> output at
> > 100% and resize in GF? 


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