Digital BW, The Print

I haven't used some of my film cameras for a long time.  Nollabs in Lansing, MI develop film any more.   Does anyone know of a lab in the Midwest that will develop 35 mm B&W and color as well as 120 film?

Try Dwaynes in witchita

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On Mar 6, 2011, at 3:28 PM, "nancyewilson@..." <nancyewilson@...> wrote:

> I haven't used some of my film cameras for a long time. Nollabs in Lansing, MI develop film any more. Does anyone know of a lab in the Midwest that will develop 35 mm B&W and color as well as 120 film?
> 
> 


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Hi Nancy,

I kinda ran into the same problem a few years back when life finally slowed down 
to a point where I could enjoy photography again. Looking around, life had 
changed and noone was developing or printing film. So with my best half working 
at Walgreens, they took care of the 35mm color, I started developing & printing 
my own b&w and there is a last remaining lab here in Colorado Springs. Doing 
several rolls of 120mm film or slide is a bit expensive but professional results 
every time. Depending on how much color 120mm you do, it is fairly easy to move 
into developing your own color film if you take the time to study, keep notes, 
and enjoy the journey of learning, you would surprise yourself.

Phil




 



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From: "nancyewilson@..." <nancyewilson@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 4:28:36 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment

  
I haven't used some of my film cameras for a long time. Nollabs in Lansing, MI 
develop film any more. Does anyone know of a lab in the Midwest that will 
develop 35 mm B&W and color as well as 120 film?





      

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Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium format wet darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400 for dedicated B&W-only digital printing.
Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail orders, though they're in California.
Andy

...I started developing & printing 
my own b&w...



      

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Andy,

How do you like the B&W dark room? Last weekend my wife started beating on the 
door to get me to come out and only then did I realize I had been working on 
prints for 5 hours. Nothing like sniffing stop bath all day!!


 



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From: andy bessette <bessette_andy@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 9:11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment

  
Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium format wet 
darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400 for dedicated B&W-only digital printing.
Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail orders, 
though they're in California.
Andy

...I started developing & printing 
my own b&w...

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Should read: http://www.aandi.com/mos.html 
Andy







      

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Hi Phillip,
my darkroom is a work in process. Have accumulated most all the major components (including enlarger, print washers, water panel, water heater, sinks, etc + a lot of small stuff), have brought in adequate electrical power, and am plumbing supply and drains now. Have the basis for a drying cabinet. I'm still a long way from making a print.
Andy

--- On Sun, 3/6/11, Phillip Kimble <grimmieoldfart@...> wrote:

From: Phillip Kimble <grimmieoldfart@...>
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 9:07 PM

Andy,

How do you like the B&W dark room? Last weekend my wife started beating on the 
door to get me to come out and only then did I realize I had been working on 
prints for 5 hours. Nothing like sniffing stop bath all day!!


 



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From: andy bessette <bessette_andy@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 9:11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment

  
Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium format wet 
darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400 for dedicated B&W-only digital printing.
Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail orders, 
though they're in California.
Andy

...I started developing & printing 
my own b&w...

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I've just entered my 20th year of doing B&W work.  You can find me here. <http://www.archival-photo.net/>
Eric


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "nancyewilson@..." <nancyewilson@...> wrote:

>
> I haven't used some of my film cameras for a long time.  Nollabs in Lansing, MI develop film any more.   Does anyone know of a lab in the Midwest that will develop 35 mm B&W and color as well as 120 film?
>

The Lab @ Tom fritz Studios still runs  B&W, C-41, And E-6.
--Fred Fischer
    Lab Manager

  Tom Fritz Studios, Inc.
2930 W. Clybourn Street
Milwaukee, WI 53208-4104

414.344.8300
414.344.6155 fax

Fred@...
www.tomfritz.com




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Andy,

It sounds like you are setting up a full blown lab. I thought I was doing good 
using a spare bathroom & the bathtub as a wet area. Nope, my wife would 
definately toss me out if I expanded to that level. There is a guy here in the 
Springs who converted his entire 1 car garage into a full blown lab. Beautiful 
place but mama likes parking her car indoors....


 



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From: andy bessette <bessette_andy@yahoo.com>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 10:22:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment

  
Hi Phillip,
my darkroom is a work in process. Have accumulated most all the major components 
(including enlarger, print washers, water panel, water heater, sinks, etc + a 
lot of small stuff), have brought in adequate electrical power, and am plumbing 
supply and drains now. Have the basis for a drying cabinet. I'm still a long way 
from making a print.
Andy

--- On Sun, 3/6/11, Phillip Kimble <grimmieoldfart@...> wrote:

From: Phillip Kimble <grimmieoldfart@...>
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 9:07 PM

Andy,

How do you like the B&W dark room? Last weekend my wife started beating on the 
door to get me to come out and only then did I realize I had been working on 
prints for 5 hours. Nothing like sniffing stop bath all day!!

 

________________________________
From: andy bessette <bessette_andy@yahoo.com>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 9:11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment

  
Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium format wet 

darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400 for dedicated B&W-only digital 
printing.
Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail orders, 
though they're in California.
Andy

...I started developing & printing 
my own b&w...

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It's something I've wanted to do for years. The darkroom shares a space about the size of a single garage w/ a large library/office, a new laundry and sewing area, my digital printing/scanning area, and film and print archives.
 Anyone interested in further details is welcome to contact me offline, since this may be inappropriate for this forum.
Andy

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I'm not trying to be confrontational, but after developing and printing 
my own B&W in home darkrooms for 30+ years I was never so glad as when I 
finally got rid of the last of my many film cameras (Minox, Nikons, 
Leicas, Rolleis and a 4x5 Crown Graphic) and associated darkroom 
equipment a half dozen years ago.  (I did keep a half full bottle of 
Rodinal, just for old times' sake, but finally pitched that last year.)  
High resolution sensors give up nothing in terms of sharpness, compared 
to what I was used to on film.  And I personally think I have a LOT more 
control of the final B&W result using digital capture in color and 
near-infinite availability of contrast correction in Photoshop, as 
compared with the 5 contrast filters I used to carry (and rarely use) 
with my film cameras. 

With the ever increasing quality of digital camera sensors, and (I 
assume - correct me if I'm wrong) decline in the variety and 
availability of film, paper and chemistry, what is the attraction of 
chemical capture and processing as compared to digital, especially if 
you're going to use digital output?  (Apart from special circumstances, 
that is - if you're going way up the Amazon I do understand that you may 
be concerned about recharging those digital batteries . . . )

Again, not trying to start a fight, just wondering?

Cheers,
Kip

andy bessette wrote:
>  
>
> Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium 
> format wet darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400 
> for dedicated B&W-only digital printing.
> Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail 
> orders, though they're in California.
> Andy
>
> ...I started developing & printing
> my own b&w...
>
>
> 


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I have gone all the way up the Amazon with both film and digital and it's
much easier to carry enough batteries for digital than it is to carry enough
film for the trip (and keep it cool and dry)!!  Especially easier getting it
all through airport x-rays!

Tina

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Kip Babington <cbabing3@...> wrote:

>
>
> I'm not trying to be confrontational, but after developing and printing
> my own B&W in home darkrooms for 30+ years I was never so glad as when I
> finally got rid of the last of my many film cameras (Minox, Nikons,
> Leicas, Rolleis and a 4x5 Crown Graphic) and associated darkroom
> equipment a half dozen years ago. (I did keep a half full bottle of
> Rodinal, just for old times' sake, but finally pitched that last year.)
> High resolution sensors give up nothing in terms of sharpness, compared
> to what I was used to on film. And I personally think I have a LOT more
> control of the final B&W result using digital capture in color and
> near-infinite availability of contrast correction in Photoshop, as
> compared with the 5 contrast filters I used to carry (and rarely use)
> with my film cameras.
>
> With the ever increasing quality of digital camera sensors, and (I
> assume - correct me if I'm wrong) decline in the variety and
> availability of film, paper and chemistry, what is the attraction of
> chemical capture and processing as compared to digital, especially if
> you're going to use digital output? (Apart from special circumstances,
> that is - if you're going way up the Amazon I do understand that you may
> be concerned about recharging those digital batteries . . . )
>
> Again, not trying to start a fight, just wondering?
>
> Cheers,
> Kip
>
> andy bessette wrote:
> >
> >
> > Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium
> > format wet darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400
> > for dedicated B&W-only digital printing.
> > Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail
> > orders, though they're in California.
> > Andy
> >
> > ...I started developing & printing
> > my own b&w...
>
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
>  
>



-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


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Simply put:

I shoot large format and to get near same resolution I would be in serious
debt, and even then I would not have the advantage of camera movements.
There are no 4x5 capture backs.

I like the look of film and appreciate the challenge of w exposing film and
knowing that I can achieve a well exposed negative without a preview...
Though I kinda miss polaroid t55I'd rather not stare at a ccd screen but
look through a ground glass, it feels more immersive.

Mamiya 7 and c330 are more pleasurable to use.  No need for fancy meters,
battery grips, and all that silly stuff.  I dont shoot sports.

John M. Sanderson
On Mar 7, 2011 3:51 PM, "Kip Babington" <cbabing3@...> wrote:
> I'm not trying to be confrontational, but after developing and printing
> my own B&W in home darkrooms for 30+ years I was never so glad as when I
> finally got rid of the last of my many film cameras (Minox, Nikons,
> Leicas, Rolleis and a 4x5 Crown Graphic) and associated darkroom
> equipment a half dozen years ago. (I did keep a half full bottle of
> Rodinal, just for old times' sake, but finally pitched that last year.)
> High resolution sensors give up nothing in terms of sharpness, compared
> to what I was used to on film. And I personally think I have a LOT more
> control of the final B&W result using digital capture in color and
> near-infinite availability of contrast correction in Photoshop, as
> compared with the 5 contrast filters I used to carry (and rarely use)
> with my film cameras.
>
> With the ever increasing quality of digital camera sensors, and (I
> assume - correct me if I'm wrong) decline in the variety and
> availability of film, paper and chemistry, what is the attraction of
> chemical capture and processing as compared to digital, especially if
> you're going to use digital output? (Apart from special circumstances,
> that is - if you're going way up the Amazon I do understand that you may
> be concerned about recharging those digital batteries . . . )
>
> Again, not trying to start a fight, just wondering?
>
> Cheers,
> Kip
>
> andy bessette wrote:
>>
>>
>> Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium
>> format wet darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400
>> for dedicated B&W-only digital printing.
>> Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail
>> orders, though they're in California.
>> Andy
>>
>> ...I started developing & printing
>> my own b&w...
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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I shoot both full frame digital as well as large format. 4x5, 5x7, 8x10 and
11x14. There is no doubt that digital makes life easier, and for most of my
commercial work is digital. For my personal work I still shoot film, mainly
black & white, and having compared an 8x10 contact print against a same size
converted RGB image I really do prefer the contact print. It has a smooth
tonality and sharpness and contrast that does not shout at you - that I do
not get from my 21 mpx Canon, the images are nice , but.......
 
I have, almost, but not quite, shut my darkroom down. One enlarger, down
from 3, just a few trays and the necessary chemicals for my contacts. I have
gone hybrid for most of my printing. Scanning the negatives and sending the
output via QTR to my Epson printers. This has the edge in paper choices and
it is more eco friendly, not dumping silver and other chemicals. My test
prints either end up as scratch pads, then when done off to the compost
heap. The worms make short work of the paper :)
 
The other advantage I see is I now have a negative I can put in safe
storage, and a digital file I can work on, well with the exception of my
11x14 negatives, anyone selling an Epson XL10000 scanner on the cheap
(really cheap)!
 
Just my 2 cents
 
Mike
 
 > I'm not trying to be confrontational, but after developing and printing
> my own B&W in home darkrooms for 30+ years I was never so glad as when I
> finally got rid of the last of my many film cameras (Minox, Nikons,
> Leicas, Rolleis and a 4x5 Crown Graphic) and associated darkroom
> equipment a half dozen years ago. (I did keep a half full bottle of
> Rodinal, just for old times' sake, but finally pitched that last year.)
> High resolution sensors give up nothing in terms of sharpness, compared
> to what I was used to on film. And I personally think I have a LOT more
> control of the final B&W result using digital capture in color and
> near-infinite availability of contrast correction in Photoshop, as
> compared with the 5 contrast filters I used to carry (and rarely use)
> with my film cameras.
>
> With the ever increasing quality of digital camera sensors, and (I
> assume - correct me if I'm wrong) decline in the variety and
> availability of film, paper and chemistry, what is the attraction of
> chemical capture and processing as compared to digital, especially if
> you're going to use digital output? (Apart from special circumstances,
> that is - if you're going way up the Amazon I do understand that you may
> be concerned about recharging those digital batteries . . . )
>
> Again, not trying to start a fight, just wondering?
>
> Cheers,
> Kip




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Ya know Kip, I first started in photography while overseas with the Army in the 
early 1980s as a hobby. After years of service, marriage, and a few children, 
dogs, and a couple of fishes, I decided it was time to settle into a nice 
relaxing hobby. My aim is not to get rich or replace Ansel Adams, it is to enjoy 
life, have a hobby to keep my mind & spirit sharp, and to explore those areas I 
didn't have time for 20 years ago.

I still run a BBS and partcipate in FidoNet which died years ago with Mr Gore's 
global Internet invention, enjoy shooting film, and darkroom work. I also have a 
Canon 1Ds that takes some excellant photos and own both an epson 2400 and 1400 
printers. In the next room is my Beseler C67II enlarger sitting next to the 
bathtub. Hey if Weston used a coat closet I should feel fortionate to have an 
entire bathroom, Rright? 


If I were to become a full time studio, sports, or journalist professional, it 
would be have to be all digital no doubt about it. But if it comes down to a 
hobby, I enjoy my RB67, Canon A1 & 1N as much as I do my Canon 1Ds.

On the other hand, if I had 30 years experience working in a darkroom for a 
living, I would most certainly agree with you. I spent 20 years in the Army as a 
mechanic and take my car to Big-O for maintenance. I fully understand and agree 
with your comments. In fact, my wife & I are discussing if we are ready to do 
another 20+ years together or if we should outsource this entire marriage thing 
to someone else...

Phil

 



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From: Kip Babington <cbabing3@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:51:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment

  
I'm not trying to be confrontational, but after developing and printing 
my own B&W in home darkrooms for 30+ years I was never so glad as when I 
finally got rid of the last of my many film cameras (Minox, Nikons, 
Leicas, Rolleis and a 4x5 Crown Graphic) and associated darkroom 
equipment a half dozen years ago. (I did keep a half full bottle of 
Rodinal, just for old times' sake, but finally pitched that last year.) 
High resolution sensors give up nothing in terms of sharpness, compared 
to what I was used to on film. And I personally think I have a LOT more 
control of the final B&W result using digital capture in color and 
near-infinite availability of contrast correction in Photoshop, as 
compared with the 5 contrast filters I used to carry (and rarely use) 
with my film cameras. 

With the ever increasing quality of digital camera sensors, and (I 
assume - correct me if I'm wrong) decline in the variety and 
availability of film, paper and chemistry, what is the attraction of 
chemical capture and processing as compared to digital, especially if 
you're going to use digital output? (Apart from special circumstances, 
that is - if you're going way up the Amazon I do understand that you may 
be concerned about recharging those digital batteries . . . )

Again, not trying to start a fight, just wondering?

Cheers,
Kip

andy bessette wrote:
> 
>
> Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium 
> format wet darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400 
> for dedicated B&W-only digital printing.
> Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail 
> orders, though they're in California.
> Andy
>
> ...I started developing & printing
> my own b&w...
>
>
> 

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Thanks, all, for the perspectives.  Tina, I appreciate your comments on 
traveling the Amazon.  I remember enjoying your comments on the LUG back 
in my film days, and so I'm not surprised to be corrected by your 
experience.  I guess there are a lot more images per cubic inch of 
battery than per cubic inch of film canister.  Hadn't thought of that.  
And for those of you doing contemplative large format work, I do 
understand the difference even though I never used anything larger than 
4x5, and not very much of that.

Cheers,
Kip


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Tina
I hear you on the traveling and X-ray.   I can not tell you how many times I had arguments with screeners all over Asia and Europe.  And this was long before 2001.   I do have a foundness for film but digital is so convenient.  

Paul

Sent from my iPhonee

On Mar 7, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Tina Manley <images@...> wrote:

> I have gone all the way up the Amazon with both film and digital and it's
> much easier to carry enough batteries for digital than it is to carry enough
> film for the trip (and keep it cool and dry)!! Especially easier getting it
> all through airport x-rays!
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Kip Babington <cbabing3@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I'm not trying to be confrontational, but after developing and printing
> > my own B&W in home darkrooms for 30+ years I was never so glad as when I
> > finally got rid of the last of my many film cameras (Minox, Nikons,
> > Leicas, Rolleis and a 4x5 Crown Graphic) and associated darkroom
> > equipment a half dozen years ago. (I did keep a half full bottle of
> > Rodinal, just for old times' sake, but finally pitched that last year.)
> > High resolution sensors give up nothing in terms of sharpness, compared
> > to what I was used to on film. And I personally think I have a LOT more
> > control of the final B&W result using digital capture in color and
> > near-infinite availability of contrast correction in Photoshop, as
> > compared with the 5 contrast filters I used to carry (and rarely use)
> > with my film cameras.
> >
> > With the ever increasing quality of digital camera sensors, and (I
> > assume - correct me if I'm wrong) decline in the variety and
> > availability of film, paper and chemistry, what is the attraction of
> > chemical capture and processing as compared to digital, especially if
> > you're going to use digital output? (Apart from special circumstances,
> > that is - if you're going way up the Amazon I do understand that you may
> > be concerned about recharging those digital batteries . . . )
> >
> > Again, not trying to start a fight, just wondering?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kip
> >
> > andy bessette wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Have made substantial progress on building my own personal B&W medium
> > > format wet darkroom. Also have purchased an HP1400
> > > for dedicated B&W-only digital printing.
> > > Please allow me to suggest A&Ihttp://www.aandi.com/mos.htmlfor mail
> > > orders, though they're in California.
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > ...I started developing & printing
> > > my own b&w...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> -- 
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
> 
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> 
> 


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Minimal B&W lab:

Small cupboard on wheels + Jobo Autolab 1000 + bottles of Rodinal and fixer.


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Met vriendelijke groeten,   Ernst

Try: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wide_Inkjet_Printers/

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Presumably you need to add a changing bag to that?  My kit is similar but
I'm using XTOL in the rotary processor rather than Rodinal.

 

David Whistance

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Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Where to send Film for Deveopment

 

  

Minimal B&W lab:

Small cupboard on wheels + Jobo Autolab 1000 + bottles of Rodinal and fixer.

-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst

Try: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wide_Inkjet_Printers/

| Dinkla Grafische Techniek |
| www.pigment-print.com |
| ( unvollendet ) |





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Man, did this thread drift way off ;)

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:53 AM, David Whistance wrote:

> Presumably you need to add a changing bag to that?  My kit is similar but
> I'm using XTOL in the rotary processor rather than Rodinal.
> 
> 
> 
> David Whistance
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <emanmb@...> wrote:
>
As part of our commitment to silver halide, we now offer hand processing of all black and white films at very reasonable prices. We also now sell Ilford films, in case you're having a hard time finding them at your local stores!

http://www.digitalsilverimaging.com/film-processing

Regards,

Eric

Well, *I'm* certainly stepping into this conversation at an  
interesting time...

Here in Gotham, I'm fortunate enough to have a gaggle of big labs in  
Manhattan, and one really on-top-of-things minilab a few blocks away  
from home in Brooklyn. About 80% of my shooting is 35mm film, and  
about 80% of *that* is C41 (color and chromogenic b/w). Since I've  
been scanning my film and printing since 1998, the only thing I've  
needed a lab to do since then is properly process the film and hand  
it back to me, uncut. "Hybrid" isn't just something you drive. :-)

(The conventional b/w film I shoot gets processed by me. Doesn't take  
much to do, and I enjoy it.)

The one digital camera in my possession is a very-recently acquired  
Nikon Coolpix P6000, which I'm getting on quite nicely with, and is  
crazy-easy to carry along with my film gear. I abandoned film SLRs  
for rangefinders nearly a decade back, tiring of heavy bodies and  
heavier glass. (I did some shooting with a Canon 5D for a while;  
let's just say it was a strong reminder of why I gave up SLRs in the  
first place.)

When I can afford a pair of M9s, maybe I'll change my tune.

Back on topic: like I said, there are more than a few labs here you  
can send film out to, such as Manhattan Color, Modernage, the usually- 
reliable Duggal, LTI, and about a half-dozen others, including one or  
two I used to work for well over a dog's age ago.


- Barrett

Gamma labs, Chicago,il

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