Digital BW, The Print

I've been exploring Neat this am as a palliative to problems in the other
thread re aliasing. Looks pretty good, actually. In my quick once over, I
did not see any provision for batch processing ... ie once I see a certain
film/dev combo needs a certain fix, it seems likely to me that every frame
in a give roll would (or might) need the same fix. So is there any way to
process multiple files or does each & every one need to be loaded, fixed &
saved?


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On 08/09/2011 08:39 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote:
> I've been exploring Neat this am as a palliative to problems in the other
> thread re aliasing. Looks pretty good, actually. In my quick once over, I
> did not see any provision for batch processing ... ie once I see a certain
> film/dev combo needs a certain fix, it seems likely to me that every frame
> in a give roll would (or might) need the same fix. So is there any way to
> process multiple files or does each&  every one need to be loaded, fixed&
> saved?

You can create a noise filter in Neat Image and save that for the 
film/developer/scanner combination. With Neat Image used in Photoshop 
there are batch functions possible with actions. I have not checked that 
for the stand alone version.

BTW I never take out all the grain as it shows artefacts that I like 
less. There is no issue with the scan detail and sharpness but the 
camera and lenses used (MF folders mainly, older SLRs) need some 
sharpening so it gets harder to separate signal from noise in my case.

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Met vriendelijke groeten,   Ernst

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I totally agree. With my iso 400 films, I expect to be able to make an
11x14, full frame print with a traditional, not-pushed, filmic look. I don't
want grain to disappear.

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Ernst Dinkla <edinkla@...>wrote:

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>
>
> On 08/09/2011 08:39 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote:
> > I've been exploring Neat this am as a palliative to problems in the other
> > thread re aliasing. Looks pretty good, actually. In my quick once over, I
> > did not see any provision for batch processing ... ie once I see a
> certain
> > film/dev combo needs a certain fix, it seems likely to me that every
> frame
> > in a give roll would (or might) need the same fix. So is there any way to
> > process multiple files or does each& every one need to be loaded, fixed&
> > saved?
>
> You can create a noise filter in Neat Image and save that for the
> film/developer/scanner combination. With Neat Image used in Photoshop
> there are batch functions possible with actions. I have not checked that
> for the stand alone version.
>
> BTW I never take out all the grain as it shows artefacts that I like
> less. There is no issue with the scan detail and sharpness but the
> camera and lenses used (MF folders mainly, older SLRs) need some
> sharpening so it gets harder to separate signal from noise in my case.
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
>
> Try: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wide_Inkjet_Printers/
>
> | Dinkla Grafische Techniek |
> | www.pigment-print.com |
> | ( unvollendet ) |
>
>  
>


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On 09/08/2011 Lew Schwartz wrote:
> I've been exploring Neat this am as a palliative to problems in the 
> other
> thread re aliasing. Looks pretty good, actually. In my quick once 
> over, I
> did not see any provision for batch processing .

Neat Image is very good, but when I've tried to use it to cope with 
(severe) grain aliasing I've found it can, but only at the cost of weird 
artifacts.

NI can batch process very well if you run it standalone, no batch 
processing available as a PS plugin.
-- 
Regards

Tony Sleep
http://tonysleep.co.uk

Simply make an action and run the Image Processor in Photoshop. You have a
batch action. I would include a layer that can be masked, included in the
action, and it simply runs; Straight with out issue. Using a noise reduction
software on scans can be more difficult than on digital files simply because
the market is pushing the software developers to focus there energy there.
In the interest of full disclosure, I do act as a consultant with
Imagenomic, makers of Noiseware. Prior to my association with them, I ONLY
used Neat Image. I still have both as well as Topaz. Don't use any of them
in default only an dif a questionable area exist, you may need to make some
adjustments first. However, you do it, run it first an clean the file before
you start hitting it with all sorts of pixel pushing. 
 
I keep several presets at the ready for film. I also find that screen
representation of B&W scans distorts the real image. Take an image, look at
it on screen, then print it. The digital files respond differently than the
film scans. If you correct your files to look like digital capture I think
that might be a mistake.  
 
Eric Neilsen
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
 
www.ericneilsenphotography.com
skype me with ejprinter
www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1
Let's Talk Photography
 
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[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Sleep
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 3:37 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Grain reduction software
 
  
On 09/08/2011 Lew Schwartz wrote:
> I've been exploring Neat this am as a palliative to problems in the 
> other
> thread re aliasing. Looks pretty good, actually. In my quick once 
> over, I
> did not see any provision for batch processing .

Neat Image is very good, but when I've tried to use it to cope with 
(severe) grain aliasing I've found it can, but only at the cost of weird 
artifacts.

NI can batch process very well if you run it standalone, no batch 
processing available as a PS plugin.
-- 
Regards

Tony Sleep
http://tonysleep.co.uk



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