printer reviews?
2011-09-20 by geostru
I'm looking for a dedicated 13x19 b&w printer for exhibition quality prints. Is there a writeup somewhere about the different printer options? Thanks.
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printer reviews?
Re: printer reviews?
2011-09-21 by fotofantom
I use an Epson R2880 for color fine art printing and I love it. The Epson OEM inks are the latest K3 pigment inks, and with acid-free paper (I use Moab Entrada Natural), I think it's a good combination for longevity. The ink cartridges in the R2880 are not very large. The Epson R3000 comes with much larger cartridges, they are very costly to replace, but the ink is much more economical in the long run. The R2880 makes excellent BW prints too, however, I have a dedicated BW printer, an Epson 1400 with MIS Ultratone UT14 inks. Again, pigment inks. Makes excellent BW prints. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "geostru" <geodesiq@...> wrote:
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> > I'm looking for a dedicated 13x19 b&w printer for exhibition quality prints. Is there a writeup somewhere about the different printer options? Thanks. >
Re: [Digital BW] Re: printer reviews?
2011-09-21 by edward wiseman
I as well have been using an Epson 1400 with MIS UT-14 inks, now for almost 3 years..No problems and GREAT prints! Eddie
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From: fotofantom
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:13 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: printer reviews?
I use an Epson R2880 for color fine art printing and I love it. The Epson OEM inks are the latest K3 pigment inks, and with acid-free paper (I use Moab Entrada Natural), I think it's a good combination for longevity. The ink cartridges in the R2880 are not very large. The Epson R3000 comes with much larger cartridges, they are very costly to replace, but the ink is much more economical in the long run.
The R2880 makes excellent BW prints too, however, I have a dedicated BW printer, an Epson 1400 with MIS Ultratone UT14 inks. Again, pigment inks. Makes excellent BW prints.
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "geostru" <geodesiq@...> wrote:
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> I'm looking for a dedicated 13x19 b&w printer for exhibition quality prints. Is there a writeup somewhere about the different printer options? Thanks.
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2011-09-22 by Mel
I posted this in reply to another post, but this may be a better place to ask the question. You say you have been using the 1400 for 3 years with UT14 inks. Have you been using it with QTR or the Epson driver ? If you use QTR do you have any curves I could use, as the ones supplied in QTR are Black Only, with no opportunity to vary the tone. I prefer a neutral/cool tone, which can be achieved with the old 1290 by Curve Blending as there are curves for cool, warm etc. Mel --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edward wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote:
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> > I as well have been using an Epson 1400 with MIS UT-14 inks, now for almost 3 years..No problems and GREAT prints! > > Eddie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: fotofantom > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:13 PM > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: printer reviews? > > > > I use an Epson R2880 for color fine art printing and I love it. The Epson OEM inks are the latest K3 pigment inks, and with acid-free paper (I use Moab Entrada Natural), I think it's a good combination for longevity. The ink cartridges in the R2880 are not very large. The Epson R3000 comes with much larger cartridges, they are very costly to replace, but the ink is much more economical in the long run. > > The R2880 makes excellent BW prints too, however, I have a dedicated BW printer, an Epson 1400 with MIS Ultratone UT14 inks. Again, pigment inks. Makes excellent BW prints. > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "geostru" <geodesiq@> wrote: > > > > I'm looking for a dedicated 13x19 b&w printer for exhibition quality prints. Is there a writeup somewhere about the different printer options? Thanks. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
Re: [Digital BW] Re: printer reviews?
2011-09-22 by edward wiseman
Hi Mel.. I also was using this system with a 1280 until it "died"..This was my last an FINAL 1280!..However there were plenty of QTR profiles on line to make it very easy to go from warm/sepia to Cool....The 1400 does have curves( From Paul Roark) that you can apply, and then use the Epson Driver with nice results..But I am not able to get the degree of warmth I could get using the 1280 work flow, Including QTR..you CAN get more warmth, but it's "paper dependent"..I still LOVE not having any significant clogs during this 3 year period..It makes the whole process MORE FUN!.. I have not however been able to find anyone that has workable profiles that can be pulled up in QTR..If anyone has them PLEASE COME FORWARD and SHARE!.. THX Eddie
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Subject: [Digital BW] Re: printer reviews?
I posted this in reply to another post, but this may be a better place to ask the question.
You say you have been using the 1400 for 3 years with UT14 inks.
Have you been using it with QTR or the Epson driver ?
If you use QTR do you have any curves I could use, as the ones supplied in QTR are Black Only, with no opportunity to vary the tone. I prefer a neutral/cool tone, which can be achieved with the old 1290 by Curve Blending as there are curves for cool, warm etc.
Mel
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edward wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote:
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> I as well have been using an Epson 1400 with MIS UT-14 inks, now for almost 3 years..No problems and GREAT prints!
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> I use an Epson R2880 for color fine art printing and I love it. The Epson OEM inks are the latest K3 pigment inks, and with acid-free paper (I use Moab Entrada Natural), I think it's a good combination for longevity. The ink cartridges in the R2880 are not very large. The Epson R3000 comes with much larger cartridges, they are very costly to replace, but the ink is much more economical in the long run.
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> The R2880 makes excellent BW prints too, however, I have a dedicated BW printer, an Epson 1400 with MIS Ultratone UT14 inks. Again, pigment inks. Makes excellent BW prints.
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2011-09-22 by Mel
Thanks for your input Eddie. That was my reason for dumping the 1290 - I had two and they both went the same way - clog clog clog with UT2 ink. Yes if abyone has made any QTR cool and warm curves for matte and glossy paper I would appreciate it. Mel --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edward wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote:
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> > Hi Mel.. > > I also was using this system with a 1280 until it "died"..This was my last an FINAL 1280!..However there were plenty of QTR profiles on line to make it very easy to go from warm/sepia to Cool....The 1400 does have curves( From Paul Roark) that you can apply, and then use the Epson Driver with nice results..But I am not able to get the degree of warmth I could get using the 1280 work flow, Including QTR..you CAN get more warmth, but it's "paper dependent"..I still LOVE not having any significant clogs during this 3 year period..It makes the whole process MORE FUN!.. > I have not however been able to find anyone that has workable profiles that can be pulled up in QTR..If anyone has them PLEASE COME FORWARD and SHARE!.. > > THX > > Eddie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mel > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:55 AM > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: printer reviews? > > > > I posted this in reply to another post, but this may be a better place to ask the question. > > You say you have been using the 1400 for 3 years with UT14 inks. > > Have you been using it with QTR or the Epson driver ? > > If you use QTR do you have any curves I could use, as the ones supplied in QTR are Black Only, with no opportunity to vary the tone. I prefer a neutral/cool tone, which can be achieved with the old 1290 by Curve Blending as there are curves for cool, warm etc. > > Mel > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edward wiseman" <pahts@> wrote: > > > > I as well have been using an Epson 1400 with MIS UT-14 inks, now for almost 3 years..No problems and GREAT prints! > > > > Eddie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: fotofantom > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:13 PM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: printer reviews? > > > > > > > > I use an Epson R2880 for color fine art printing and I love it. The Epson OEM inks are the latest K3 pigment inks, and with acid-free paper (I use Moab Entrada Natural), I think it's a good combination for longevity. The ink cartridges in the R2880 are not very large. The Epson R3000 comes with much larger cartridges, they are very costly to replace, but the ink is much more economical in the long run. > > > > The R2880 makes excellent BW prints too, however, I have a dedicated BW printer, an Epson 1400 with MIS Ultratone UT14 inks. Again, pigment inks. Makes excellent BW prints. > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "geostru" <geodesiq@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm looking for a dedicated 13x19 b&w printer for exhibition quality prints. Is there a writeup somewhere about the different printer options? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[Digital BW] Re: printer reviews?
2011-09-23 by Paul
"edward wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote: > > ...The 1400 does have curves (from Paul Roark) that you can apply, and then use the Epson Driver with nice results..But I am not able to get the degree of warmth I could get using the 1280 work flow,... For the UT2 and UT7 inksets I made a sepia toned ink for the Y position that was mostly composed of MIS yellow and magenta pigments. Unfortunately, in fade tests and my practical use, it faded more quickly than I was comfortable with. So I stopped using it in the UT14 inkset. If you wanted sepia you could put the UT2/7 sepia (Y) ink in the 1400 in place of the gloss optimizer that is in that position now. However, you'd have to re-do some if not all of the profiles. Also, as with the UT2 and UT7, if you use the Epson driver workflows you might end up with a bit more warmth in the deep shadows from the sepia ink having to be "turned on" to get the black to be used. That is, I don't recommend this unless you are proficient in QTR. I also don't recommend the UT2/7 sepia ink for any image where longevity is an important criteria. If you use the UT14 LM-M (warm carbon) on Museo Silver Rag you'll have a nice "sepia" tone that is not quite as deep a sepia as the UT2/7, but it still does the job and, being 100% carbon, is nearly bullet proof. Some of my old photo reproductions that use this carbon & Museo Silver Rag are in an outside public display in Solvang, CA. We'll see how these un-sprayed carbon prints hold up there. Paul www.PaulRoark.com