Digital BW, The Print

I have an R2400, standard K3 inkset.  For giggles I got a box of Kirkland
Glossy Photo paper - I recall stories of success with it in the past.
This paper is marked "Made In Mexico".

Printed the QTR 51-step wedge using PhotoPaperGlossy/ABW/Neutral/Dark,
measured it with SypderPrint 4.2.1, manually edited the output file to
51 steps, used QTR-icc to produce a profile.  This workflow easily
produces profiles that work very well to my eye.

I'm surprised how good the paper is; it's not Ilford Gold Fiber Silk
(which is my go-to high-quality paper these days), but it's a fine match
for the K3 inkset with relatively little gloss differential, certainly
better than Kodak Pro Inkjet photo paper.  I also note that the paper seems
to dry very quickly.

I was thinking of using this as a proofing paper, but, when lifetime
permanence isn't a major concern, I'll probably use this for general
printing.

Cheers -
Dana

Dear Dana,

I have used this paper (from Costco at about 14 or 15 cents a sheet!!!) 
for a number of years. It is a great proofing paper and even a very good 
paper for final output using custom profiles in either color or B&W. It 
is a resin coated paper that prints warm, as in Brovira, with 100% 
carbon pigment ink.

It comes in 150 - 8.5 x 11 sheet boxes, I buy it by the case at around 
$100.00 for 4 boxes, that is 600 sheets. I have seen it sold on their 
web site in larger sizes a while back but I do not know if it is still 
offered.

BTW is the 2400 the one that I gave to you for the taking some time back?

Cheers,

Will Harvey


Napa, CA


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On 11/25/2011 10:46 AM, Dana Myers wrote:
>
>
> I have an R2400, standard K3 inkset. For giggles I got a box of Kirkland
> Glossy Photo paper - I recall stories of success with it in the past.
> This paper is marked "Made In Mexico".
>
> Printed the QTR 51-step wedge using PhotoPaperGlossy/ABW/Neutral/Dark,
> measured it with SypderPrint 4.2.1, manually edited the output file to
> 51 steps, used QTR-icc to produce a profile. This workflow easily
> produces profiles that work very well to my eye.
>
> I'm surprised how good the paper is; it's not Ilford Gold Fiber Silk
> (which is my go-to high-quality paper these days), but it's a fine match
> for the K3 inkset with relatively little gloss differential, certainly
> better than Kodak Pro Inkjet photo paper. I also note that the paper seems
> to dry very quickly.
>
> I was thinking of using this as a proofing paper, but, when lifetime
> permanence isn't a major concern, I'll probably use this for general
> printing.
>
> Cheers -
> Dana
>
> 


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William Harvey <will@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have used this paper (from Costco at about 14 or 15 
> cents a sheet!!!) for a number of years. ...

> prints warm, as in Brovira, with 100% carbon pigment ink.

Which carbon ink are you using?


I had the impression when we were discussing this paper several years ago that Costco would occasionally switch suppliers with little notice of any such change in the packaging.  So, I was wondering how you've found the consistency of the paper over the years.

(As an aside, I once received a box where the paper had the Epson name  on the back.  The Costco buyer was surprised; that should not have happened.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Dear Paul,

When I started using this paper it was made in Switzerland and then I 
was only printing color. In the last couple of years this paper has been 
made in Mexico. As to consistency it seems to be very consistent.

For color I am using a 2880 with ConeColor inks and a custom profile. 
For B&W I am using MIS R2xxN and R2xxW inks in a tri-tone setup on a 
well used R220 where the PK is always the Neutral ink and the LK and LLK 
are either Warm or Neutral depending on the warm or neutral tone 
desired. Using 100% neutral inks makes a print that is, for me, a bit 
lifeless. Usually I print in split tone setting of 75% neutral and 25% 
Warm using QTR. Going 100% Warm (I presume that this is the 100% carbon) 
makes the very warm print about which I was talking.

If I use a paper such as Inkpress glossy for B&W the result is much more 
neutral in both the 75-25% split or the 100% Warm.

I do quite a few 4 x 6 prints on an Epson Picturemate pigment printer 
and have noticed that in the last couple of years the OEM4 x 6 paper is 
now RC and difficult or impossible to tell from the Costco RC.

Cheers

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On 11/25/2011 8:29 PM, Paul wrote:
>
> William Harvey <will@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have used this paper (from Costco at about 14 or 15
> > cents a sheet!!!) for a number of years. ...
>
> > prints warm, as in Brovira, with 100% carbon pigment ink.
>
> Which carbon ink are you using?
>
> I had the impression when we were discussing this paper several years 
> ago that Costco would occasionally switch suppliers with little notice 
> of any such change in the packaging. So, I was wondering how you've 
> found the consistency of the paper over the years.
>
> (As an aside, I once received a box where the paper had the Epson name 
> on the back. The Costco buyer was surprised; that should not have 
> happened.)
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
> 


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On 11/25/2011 8:29 PM, Paul wrote:
>
>
>
> I had the impression when we were discussing this paper several years ago that Costco would occasionally switch suppliers with 
> little notice of any such change in the packaging. So, I was wondering how you've found the consistency of the paper over the years.
>
> (As an aside, I once received a box where the paper had the Epson name on the back. The Costco buyer was surprised; that should 
> not have happened.)
>

That's why I made to mention the "Made In Mexico" on the box, since that's
at least one clue to the type/origin of the paper.  I recall older Kirkland paper
that was from Europe, IIRC.  If I continue to use this paper - I'll probably
run a 21-step wedge on new boxes to check the profile.

Cheers,
Dana



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Yep, the original paper was made in swizterland. I think it was the same as some Ilford paper but not sure on this one. I bought a few boxes at that time.I just purchased on line a box of 13x19. I have not checked out where it was manufactured.Pierre
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      On 11/25/2011 8:29 PM, Paul wrote:

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>

>

> I had the impression when we were discussing this paper several years ago that Costco would occasionally switch suppliers with 

> little notice of any such change in the packaging. So, I was wondering how you've found the consistency of the paper over the years.

>

> (As an aside, I once received a box where the paper had the Epson name on the back. The Costco buyer was surprised; that should 

> not have happened.)

>



That's why I made to mention the "Made In Mexico" on the box, since that's

at least one clue to the type/origin of the paper.  I recall older Kirkland paper

that was from Europe, IIRC.  If I continue to use this paper - I'll probably

run a 21-step wedge on new boxes to check the profile.



Cheers,

Dana



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