Digital BW, The Print

Julian, 
I printed a portrait today on several different papers including Eclipse, Somerset Enhanced, Museo, Torchon, Orwell, Tunbridge, Concorde Rag.  These prints were intended for my portfolios. 

I view these prints at Portfolio distance (about 18"), close up (about 6 inches) and with a 5x magnifier.  

My three favorites today were Torchon (Orwell Profile), Museo (Concorde Rag Profile), and Tunbridge (Tunbridge) for various reasons.  

If I had to pick just one for quality of image, feel of paper, dmax and overall look, I would pick the Torchon for best image...for this subject (a head shot of a man, 40% of printed image was solid black background).

The Torchon has a definite texture which is noticeable when unprinted, but as soon as an image is on it, the texture "disappears" and becomes un-noticeable...at least to my eyes, as I am focused on the image now.  At the same time the unprinted areas (borders of the print) have a very nice white textured look which I find appealing and very "art print" looking.    I think Torchon is one of the underused and underestimated fine art papers out there.  

I also like the substantial weight of the Torchon for portfolio work.  It is bright white and 100% acid free (but not rag).  

Second choice was Museo for weight/tone.  Tunbridge I liked very much for image and warmer tone.  

Good Luck and Good Light, 
Steadman.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Spragens 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]paper advice


  Julian,

  the texture of the Torchon is much coarser, and I find it less 
  intrusive viewed close than the William Turner. Have you used 
  it/seen it? If not, I'll stick something in the post for you.

  Tim

  > I'm about to start printing a portfolio and I'm finding the WT too
  > textured for close viewing.


  --
  Tim Spragens
  http://www.borderless-photos.com


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Thanks Steadman. I have some more testing to do!

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]paper advice 8 Papers Printed


> Julian,
> I printed a portrait today on several different papers including Eclipse,
Somerset Enhanced, Museo, Torchon, Orwell, Tunbridge, Concorde Rag.  These
prints were intended for my portfolios.
>
> I view these prints at Portfolio distance (about 18"), close up (about 6
inches) and with a 5x magnifier.
>
> My three favorites today were Torchon (Orwell Profile), Museo (Concorde
Rag Profile), and Tunbridge (Tunbridge) for various reasons.
>
> If I had to pick just one for quality of image, feel of paper, dmax and
overall look, I would pick the Torchon for best image...for this subject (a
head shot of a man, 40% of printed image was solid black background).
>
> The Torchon has a definite texture which is noticeable when unprinted, but
as soon as an image is on it, the texture "disappears" and becomes
un-noticeable...at least to my eyes, as I am focused on the image now.  At
the same time the unprinted areas (borders of the print) have a very nice
white textured look which I find appealing and very "art print" looking.
I think Torchon is one of the underused and underestimated fine art papers
out there.
>
> I also like the substantial weight of the Torchon for portfolio work.  It
is bright white and 100% acid free (but not rag).
>
> Second choice was Museo for weight/tone.  Tunbridge I liked very much for
image and warmer tone.

>
> Good Luck and Good Light,
> Steadman.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tim Spragens
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:28 PM
>   Subject: Re: [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]paper advice
>
>
>   Julian,
>
>   the texture of the Torchon is much coarser, and I find it less
>   intrusive viewed close than the William Turner. Have you used
>   it/seen it? If not, I'll stick something in the post for you.
>
>   Tim
>
>   > I'm about to start printing a portfolio and I'm finding the WT too
>   > textured for close viewing.
>
>
>   --
>   Tim Spragens
>   http://www.borderless-photos.com
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A second from here. When I first saw this paper, I liked it for itself, 
but was wondering how it would print. Even in raking light, the 
texture in the image is not obvious. I was staring last night at three 
very different images, in terms of detail and contrast, printed on 
Torchon, and liked them all. The Piezo ink will warm on it in a 
couple of days, but I don't mind that.

Tim

> The Torchon has a definite texture which is noticeable when unprinted,
> but as soon as an image is on it, the texture "disappears" and becomes
> un-noticeable...at least to my eyes, as I am focused on the image now.
>  At the same time the unprinted areas (borders of the print) have a
> very nice white textured look which I find appealing and very "art
> print" looking.  I think Torchon is one of the underused and
> underestimated fine art papers out there.  


--
Tim Spragens
http://www.borderless-photos.com