Re: [Digital BW] Re:Legion Photo Matte "Thickness Issue"-caliper reads
2001-08-20 by Jerry Olson
Hi Antonis, Well isn't that a lovely way to screw the customer? He thinks he's buying a certain weight and of course according to the maker, he is. But why then, if deceit is not intended, does the actual paper you buy not equal the thickness of the samples they send you? Jerry Is MILS a reliable measurement that is the same all over? Antonis Ricos wrote:
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> Jerry, > > Steadman is right. The thickness is measured with a caliper and given in > mils. It may or may not correlate with the gsm of a paper. > > LPM (230) is listed as 10.5 mil > > As a reference, Concorde Rag (181 gsm) is listed as 11.5 mil > and Sommerset Photo Enhanced Textured (225 gsm) is 16mil. > > You can find more in the Excel sheet I just uploaded. > > Antonis > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" > <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote: > > Jerry, et al, > > > > I just opened my three boxes of Legion Photo Matte 230gsm (LPM) and > examined the paper. It seems fine to me. Paper came from Media Street. > > > > Remember that the 230gsm is not a measure of thickness per se. It is the > basis weight for a known size and and quantity of paper. In other words, a > paper may be both "thin" and heavy at the same time. This paper appears to > have a nice thick coating on the front, so I expect that explains it. > > ..... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jerry Olson > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] "silver" prints from digital systems? > > > > > > To the group. > > > > I have just received my first pack of the Legion Photo Matte Paper from > Digital Arts., and also 3 from media street. > > > > This paper is NOT as thick as the samples they sent out in their sampler > (legion paper co.). The actual boxes of paper are about the same thickness as > Epson's Archival Matte. > > > > This is very disappointing, in fact it might be illegal labeling. I can easily > pick out the heavier sampler paper with my eyes closed. The difference is not > huge, but it is obvious. On the label on back of the sampler it says 230 gsms. > > > > On the boxes of legion paper, it also says 230 gsms. but it isn't quite as > thick as the sampler. > > > > If anyone else got the sampler pack first, and then the actual paper, can > you confirm, please? > > > > > > Jerry > > If you do not wish to belong to Digital B&W, The Print, you may > unsubscribe by sending an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/