Digital BW, The Print

Hiya!

Wrong place to ask I know, so sorry about that. 

Can anyone point me to a Yahoo Group, etc. for Nik Sharpener Pro and / or OnOne Perfect Resize?

I can't seem to find anything except Pro Cheerleaders & RadioShack Pro scanners or groups for meeting eastern European glamour girls when searching Yahoo Groups (perfectly resized I guess). Groan...

Or, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? After I resize for printing in Perfect Resize, Sharpener Pro tells me the image is all sorts of oddball sizes and resolutions and I suspect, based on this, it's not sharpening correctly with the inkjet preset. 

Thanks.

Dean

Hi Dean,

Why are you using other aps or programs for an easy Photoshop problem?

Keep a "Master" file of your image, resize it to your new print size and do a "save as" -
(to preserve the integrity of the original file). Then sharpen the image in PS, and print
it. You can find info for sharpening in PS literature, but an easy way is to enlarge the 
image to 100% and sharpen using your visual judgement. If it looks too contrasty,
it will print that way, so cut back on the sharpening.

This may be a bit over simplified, but it looks as if you could use some of that, after
reading your message!  Hope this helps a little.

Clay Price



Dean Johnston wrote:
Can anyone point me to a Yahoo Group, etc. for Nik Sharpener Pro and / or OnOne Perfect Resize?

I can't seem to find anything except Pro Cheerleaders & RadioShack Pro scanners......

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I am a big fan of Perfect Resize. In fact, my use of the software goes 
all the way back to the original version of Genuine Fractals. That said, 
I do not care for the sharpening function of Perfect Resize. The advice 
to sharpen in Photoshop is sound, as well as keeping an unsharpened copy 
of the original and the enlarged file. Sharpening in Photoshop also 
gives you the option to "fade sharpening." Sharpening should be the last 
thing you do before a final save --- which would preclude sharpening 
while enlarging.
Joe


On 4/5/2013 11:37, Clayton Price wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dean,
>
> Why are you using other aps or programs for an easy Photoshop problem?
>
> Keep a "Master" file of your image, resize it to your new print size 
> and do a "save as" -
> (to preserve the integrity of the original file). Then sharpen the 
> image in PS, and print
> it. You can find info for sharpening in PS literature, but an easy way 
> is to enlarge the
> image to 100% and sharpen using your visual judgement. If it looks too 
> contrasty,
> it will print that way, so cut back on the sharpening.
>
> This may be a bit over simplified, but it looks as if you could use 
> some of that, after
> reading your message! Hope this helps a little.
>
> Clay Price
>
> Dean Johnston wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a Yahoo Group, etc. for Nik Sharpener Pro and / 
> or OnOne Perfect Resize?
>
> I can't seem to find anything except Pro Cheerleaders & RadioShack Pro 
> scanners......
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 



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I am also a fan of Genuine Fractals - since version 3 or so, and currently using version 5.   I often (daily or weekly) take a 10"x13" image (sometimes 7"x9") up to 23"x29".  

I find if I do the enlargement in a series of steps - increasing the larger dimension by 1.5" each iteration - that I get significant sharpening with a quite nice result.  It is far better than using a single step (the recommended procedure) or using any of the enlargement methods in Photoshop.  Otherwise I don't mess with sharpening - fortunately Bodine's images don't need it.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Joe Dempsey <jdempsey@...> wrote:

>
> I am a big fan of Perfect Resize. In fact, my use of the software goes 
> all the way back to the original version of Genuine Fractals. That said, 
> I do not care for the sharpening function of Perfect Resize. The advice 
> to sharpen in Photoshop is sound, as well as keeping an ocopy 
> of the original and the enlarged file. Sharpening in Photoshop also 
> gives you the option to "fade sharpening." Sharpening should be the last 
> thing you do before a final save --- which would preclude sharpening 
> while enlarging.
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 4/5/2013 11:37, Clayton Price wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Dean,
> >
> > Why are you using other aps or programs for an easy Photoshop problem?
> >
> > Keep a "Master" file of your image, resize it to your new print size 
> > and do a "save as" -
> > (to preserve the integrity of the original file). Then sharpen the 
> > image in PS, and print
> > it. You can find info for sharpening in PS literature, but an easy way 
> > is to enlarge the
> > image to 100% and sharpen using your visual judgement. If it looks too 
> > contrasty,
> > it will print that way, so cut back on the sharpening.
> >
> > This may be a bit over simplified, but it looks as if you could use 
> > some of that, after
> > reading your message! Hope this helps a little.
> >
> > Clay Price
> >
> > Dean Johnston wrote:
> > Can anyone point me to a Yahoo Group, etc. for Nik Sharpener Pro and / 
> > or OnOne Perfect Resize?
> >
> > I can't seem to find anything except Pro Cheerleaders & RadioShack Pro 
> > scanners......
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Consider Qimage Ultimate too even if you do not use its sharpening 
technology in the editing phase (original RAW or Tiff/JPG file content 
is not lost then either) but in the printing phase.

http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-u/tech-dfs.htm


-- 
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Hiya!

Thanks for the comments so far. 

I should have added, I'm on the latest version of Mountain Lion & I don't have Photoshop. Primarily I use Aperture (often with a Nik plugin or a VSCO preset as a starting point), along with the Perfect Resize Pro plugin (I also use Capture One for initial RAW processing, or Vuescan when needed). Thus resizing and sharpening in Photoshop are not a consideration.  

I don't really want to use Parallels, Fusion, etc., so this also precludes QImage - which I found when I was mainly Windows based to be a fantastic programme. Really wish it was also made for Mac, but alas, seems it never will be. 

When I feel the image is ready for printing, I make a new version and resize this with Perfect Resize (I don't resize in increments, but for larger than A4 I might look into this, so thanks "orbancc" - it's something I 'knew but forgot').   Once happy with that, I make another version and sharpen this for printing with Sharpener Pro (Nik plugin). 

My main concern was that, once opened in Resize Pro, the 'embiggened' image shows up with odd sizes and resolutions displayed at the bottom right edge of the image in the preview. For example, I recall an image that should have been 170mm on the short side (basically a 2cm border for A4 paper) @ 360 dpi was showing as something like 52 inches @ some oddball resolution. I'm worried that if the app thinks this, then the values it applies for the "inkjet, paper type, viewing distance and nozzle resolution" setting might not be optimal.

On the bright size, the last couple of days the image has been showing up as the correct resized values. Just not the resolution. Also, the prints do seem fine. 

Thanks.

Dean