Digital BW, The Print

Anybody have any numbers?  And any issues mixing them in same printer?

Mark
www.stillrivereditions.com

No numbers I'm afraid although I find Eboni gives me a better Dmax.  I have mixed them in printers without problems.

David Whistance
On 1 Aug 2013, at 20:57, "Mark" <mark@...> wrote:

> Anybody have any numbers? And any issues mixing them in same printer?
> 
> Mark
> www.stillrivereditions.com
> 
> 



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Thanks David!

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Aug 2, 2013, at 4:43 AM, David Whistance wrote:

> No numbers I'm afraid although I find Eboni gives me a better Dmax.  I have mixed them in printers without problems.
> 
> David Whistance
> On 1 Aug 2013, at 20:57, "Mark" <mark@...> wrote:
> 



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On 08/01/2013 09:57 PM, Mark wrote:
> Anybody have any numbers? And any issues mixing them in same printer?
>
> Mark
> www.stillrivereditions.com

Check the Lab L minimum numbers in the summary of tests at the 
Aardenburg Imaging site. You have to log in. All on PhotoRag and only 
one with Eboni done then, they all are around L 15, some down to 13.8 
and one up at 17. I guess other factors like the printer type and driver 
have as much an influence.


-- 
Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

Yes, I logged in and wish there was a paper to paper, ink to ink direct comparison. I'd like to see numbers on Photo Rag for both inks.

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Aug 2, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Ernst Dinkla wrote:

> On 08/01/2013 09:57 PM, Mark wrote:
>> Anybody have any numbers? And any issues mixing them in same printer?
>> 
>> Mark
>> www.stillrivereditions.com
> 
> Check the Lab L minimum numbers in the summary of tests at the 
> Aardenburg Imaging site. You have to log in. All on PhotoRag and only 
> one with Eboni done then, they all are around L 15, some down to 13.8 
> and one up at 17. I guess other factors like the printer type and driver 
> have as much an influence.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

On 08/02/2013 02:36 PM, Mark Savoia wrote:
> Yes, I logged in and wish there was a paper to paper, ink to ink direct
> comparison. I'd like to see numbers on Photo Rag for both inks.
>
> Mark
> http://www.stillrivereditions.com

There is Mark. After log in, go to tests, search Ink contains MIS + "or" 
Ink contains Cone + "and" Paper contains Photo Rag. You get about 10 
results among them one MIS Eboni, the rest several Cone ink sets. Then 
Look for the L minim far right in the data base.


-- 
Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

Which reminds me of my project to print 6 or 8 black inks from different 
brands on 500 papers to measure the Dmax of each combo. The Epson R200 
and R220 are cleaned and are ready to work but so far I got not 1 ML of 
ink sponsored from anyone; no company, no individual. The results will 
be added to SpectrumViz. In the past it was not that difficult to get 
sample sheets from companies for the spectral plots but inks seems to be 
difficult. I do have an old bottle of Eboni but I fear the clogs. My HP 
inks are ready and I expect that Epson inks will come but there are 
Canon, Cone, MIS, OCP black inks that might not get their Dmax tested.

-- 
Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

Oh,

You are the guy behind spectrumWiz?

I'd like to give you a big Thanks!!

I'm using it for finding papers that are similar to others, with huge
success..

:)


Cheers
JF



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http://felinik.com
http://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik <https://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik>


2013/8/2 Ernst Dinkla <e.dinkla@...>

> **
>
>
>
> Which reminds me of my project to print 6 or 8 black inks from different
> brands on 500 papers to measure the Dmax of each combo. The Epson R200
> and R220 are cleaned and are ready to work but so far I got not 1 ML of
> ink sponsored from anyone; no company, no individual. The results will
> be added to SpectrumViz. In the past it was not that difficult to get
> sample sheets from companies for the spectral plots but inks seems to be
> difficult. I do have an old bottle of Eboni but I fear the clogs. My HP
> inks are ready and I expect that Epson inks will come but there are
> Canon, Cone, MIS, OCP black inks that might not get their Dmax tested.
>
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla
>
> http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
> December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.
>
>  
>


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla <e.dinkla@...> wrote:

> There is Mark. After log in, go to tests, search Ink contains MIS + "or" 
> Ink contains Cone + "and" Paper contains Photo Rag. You get about 10 
> results among them one MIS Eboni, the rest several Cone ink sets. Then 
> Look for the L minim far right in the data base.

And you can also use the "collapse columns" feature in conjunction with the search/filter menu to reduce the extensive number of columns, then reintroduce only those columns of information that you want to view for any particular inquiry. 

Thanks Ernst, for giving a nice example on using the search and filtering capabilities of the AaI&A light fade test results database. This search/filter engine is very Excel-like, and with a little practice one can use it to drill down into the database results for very targeted comparisons of results within the larger database. That said, I have the sense that few AaI&A members actually use this powerful feature of the AaI&A database.

kind regards,
Mark
http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com