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2014-03-03 by Richard Smallfield
2014-03-09 by Uwe Rinck
I like the Mono a lot. I primarily work B&W with Leica Monochrom and the prints are of very good quality Epson 4900 with ImagePrint software I also recently tried the Harman Gloss Baryta Warmtone good as well. Richard Smallfield <rwsmallfield@...> schrieb am 1:19 Montag, 3.März 2014: Hi, I was ordering another box of Gold Fibre Silk and saw the Mono Silk listed. So of course I added a box of A4 to my order. Due to illness I've hardly done a single print in the last year, so missed the release of this paper. How are people liking it? Thanks, Richard www.richardsmallfield.com www.unintendedmasterpieces.com https://www.facebook.com/richard.smallfield
2014-03-10 by Ernst Dinkla
On 09-03-14 05:38, Uwe Rinck wrote: > I like the Mono a lot. > I primarily work B&W with Leica Monochrom and the prints are of very good quality > Epson 4900 with ImagePrint software > I also recently tried the Harman Gloss Baryta Warmtone good as well. Be aware that Ilford Imaging is in insolvency and the Mono Silk will disappear from the market. There are good alternatives with similar whiteness, for example the Innova IFA29. This weekend thanks to Jean Verrept from Belgium I could add the 4 qualities Calumet Museum range to SpectrumViz. The also Alpha Cellulose based Calumet Brilliant Museum Silver Gloss White 300 gsm is as cool as the Mono Silk but has a higher white reflection than the Mono. Not counting the different texture it comes close to Hahnem\ufffdhle FineArt Pearl 285gsm. Permajet Fibre Base Photo Art Pearl 290gsm belongs to the same class. I would expect a wider dynamic range from these papers than possible with the Mono. Of course that depends on the Dmax possible too. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.
2014-03-10 by John Castronovo
I recently profiled Canson's Platine and was thrilled with the increased gamut over Ilford's Silk. I prefer the finish too. What do you think of it Ernst?
-----Original Message----- From: Ernst Dinkla Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:26 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Ilford Mono Silk On 09-03-14 05:38, Uwe Rinck wrote: > I like the Mono a lot. > I primarily work B&W with Leica Monochrom and the prints are of very good > quality > Epson 4900 with ImagePrint software > I also recently tried the Harman Gloss Baryta Warmtone good as well. Be aware that Ilford Imaging is in insolvency and the Mono Silk will disappear from the market. There are good alternatives with similar whiteness, for example the Innova IFA29. This weekend thanks to Jean Verrept from Belgium I could add the 4 qualities Calumet Museum range to SpectrumViz. The also Alpha Cellulose based Calumet Brilliant Museum Silver Gloss White 300 gsm is as cool as the Mono Silk but has a higher white reflection than the Mono. Not counting the different texture it comes close to Hahnem�hle FineArt Pearl 285gsm. Permajet Fibre Base Photo Art Pearl 290gsm belongs to the same class. I would expect a wider dynamic range from these papers than possible with the Mono. Of course that depends on the Dmax possible too. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots. ------------------------------------ Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See \u201cGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\u201d in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \u201cOWNER\u201d AND \u201cMODERATORS\u201d OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \u201cOWNER\u201d AND \u201cMODERATORS\u201d OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo Groups Links ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7172 - Release Date: 03/09/14
2014-03-10 by Elliot Puritz
Platine with the Jon Cone warm neutral ink set is my favorite combination. One does need to use the gloss optimizer. Elliot
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Castronovo Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 9:43 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Ilford Mono Silk I recently profiled Canson's Platine and was thrilled with the increased gamut over Ilford's Silk. I prefer the finish too. What do you think of it Ernst? -----Original Message----- From: Ernst Dinkla Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:26 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Ilford Mono Silk On 09-03-14 05:38, Uwe Rinck wrote: > I like the Mono a lot. > I primarily work B&W with Leica Monochrom and the prints are of very good > quality > Epson 4900 with ImagePrint software > I also recently tried the Harman Gloss Baryta Warmtone good as well. Be aware that Ilford Imaging is in insolvency and the Mono Silk will disappear from the market. There are good alternatives with similar whiteness, for example the Innova IFA29. This weekend thanks to Jean Verrept from Belgium I could add the 4 qualities Calumet Museum range to SpectrumViz. The also Alpha Cellulose based Calumet Brilliant Museum Silver Gloss White 300 gsm is as cool as the Mono Silk but has a higher white reflection than the Mono. Not counting the different texture it comes close to Hahnemühle FineArt Pearl 285gsm. Permajet Fibre Base Photo Art Pearl 290gsm belongs to the same class. I would expect a wider dynamic range from these papers than possible with the Mono. Of course that depends on the Dmax possible too. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots. ------------------------------------ Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo Groups Links ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7172 - Release Date: 03/09/14
2014-03-11 by Ernst Dinkla
On 10-03-14 14:43, John Castronovo wrote: > I recently profiled Canson's Platine and was thrilled with the increased > gamut over Ilford's Silk. I prefer the finish too. What do you think of it > Ernst? First, I have not printed the 600+ papers in the SpectrumViz list so can not answer what they do in use. It is consistent but limited information I try to gather and publish. I did not see what could make Mono Silk special, not for B&W and not for color. When Ilford Imaging introduced Mono Silk last year I had some remarks on the specifications that contradicted their claims in et rest of the introduction. A girl/lady Ilford representative got in my opinion the wrong answers from Ilford marketing to answer my comments. There was more going wrong with the introduction of other papers then including their description. "Prestige" was added to the names though :-) I think the girl was not employed there soon afterwards as she wrote to me later on, not the first one that had to leave. I hope she got another job soon. I think the last year at Ilford was close to chaos. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=70745.0 -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.