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Source of Noritsu Inks

Source of Noritsu Inks

2014-07-15 by Bob Marsolais

I've been absent from the B&W printing scene for a while, but I'd like to
get back into the fun.

 

Unless I've misread Paul's website, it sounds like Paul's latest work using
Red River's Polar Pearl Metallic paper is documented in
4000-Noritsu-5K-Plus.pdf, dated August 2013.  However, when I checked the
various sources of Noritsu ink, they were all about $150 per color for a
total cost of about $450 to get started.  That's a bit steep for this
hobbyist.  Is there a less expensive source of the Noritsu inks?  I'll be
using a R1800.

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

Re: [Digital BW] Source of Noritsu Inks

2014-07-15 by Paul Roark

Hi Bob,

... it sounds like Paul’s latest work using Red River’s Polar Pearl Metallic paper is documented in 4000-Noritsu-5K-Plus.pdf, dated August 2013.

That was last year's approach. This year I'm (ironically) back to an approach that is more reminiscent of the 2200 era and "ABW." See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/4000-Noritsu-2K.pdf . The reason is that with Claria/Noritsu (& now UltraChrome D6) the color dyes are stronger than the black dye, which is definitely not carbon.

From a cost perspective, however, the 2014 approach is a step backwards.

I'm not sure what printer you're using, but if you are using a 1400 or 1430, you can try the color + K ("Claria ABW") approach using the QTR profiles I've posted.

If you are using a 1400 you can also do what I did for a while -- just buy one cart of the Noritsu K and then use off the shelf Claria LM for the toning. With the Red River metallic, the K plus light LM toning is all you need.

Unfortunately, I know of no way to get the Noritsu carts for less. EBay has outdated ones for less than Noritsu/Epson's apparently price-fixed level.

For the best and cheapest B&W, use Eboni-6.

Paul



Re: Source of Noritsu Inks

2014-07-16 by Bob Marsolais

Paul,

 

Thanks for the reply.  What ink set would you recommend for Red Mountain's
Polar Pearl Metallic?

 

Bob

 



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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Source of Noritsu Inks

2014-07-16 by Paul Roark

Bob,

Of course, the main reason I'm using the Claria/Noritsu inks is that nothing can match them in terms of looks, particularly on the unique metallic papers. Dyes on -- actually inside -- metallic papers make a rather unique, extremely sharp looking B&W print.

In my tests, just looking at image quality, the MIS pigments were the second best. Having the base contain the gloss optimizer eliminated the bad bronzing I saw with my otherwise favorite neutral pigments -- the HP PK and its dilutions. But all the pigments lie on top of the high gloss paper and veil the image, eliminating much of the special impact of the metallic paper. The dyes, being inside the coating, make a big difference on that type of paper.

I did not try the Cone pigments. I got into second pass glop printing some years ago and abandoned it, having too many problems, including pizza wheel issues, at least with the MIS glop I was using.

I might add that I do spray the dye prints, but only with Lascaux Fixativ (non-UV). It does not alter the special looks I like. Sprays like Premier Art Print Shield put a veil over the image like the pigments -- not good. Much of the effect from that metallic paper must come from the surface of the print itself.

Hope this helps,

Paul


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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:12 AM, 'Bob Marsolais' bob@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Paul,

Thanks for the reply. What ink set would you recommend for Red Mountain’s Polar Pearl Metallic?

Bob



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