Gop over matte print ?
2014-09-25 by benoit.lantoine@...
Hello,
Is it a good idea to print a GOP layer over a matte print in order to avoid spraying it ? (to avoid rub-off in a carbon printing book project : spraying each page is a hassle)
Thanks
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Gop over matte print ?
Re: [Digital BW] Gop over matte print ?
2014-09-25 by Paul Roark
I don't recommend it. It takes a lot of spray to really protect a matte print, and GO is weaker than the Print Shield types of sprays. In fade testing by aardenburg-imaging.com I think you'll find little if any protection from fade by GO.
Paul
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:10 AM, benoit.lantoine@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello,
Is it a good idea to print a GOP layer over a matte print in order to avoid spraying it ? (to avoid rub-off in a carbon printing book project : spraying each page is a hassle)
Thanks
Re: Gop over matte print ?
2014-09-25 by benoit.lantoine@...
OK for the fading issue
To your knowledge, any advice about the rub off issue for a carbon-book project ?Re: [Digital BW] Re: Gop over matte print ?
2014-09-25 by Paul Roark
There is usually a trade-off between degree of rub off and dmax, with both the paper and spray. H. Photo Rag has great dmax, but if you look at the 100% black wrong it'll be damaged. On the other hand Premier Art Smooth fine art 205 (aka Epson Premier Art Scrapbook) has a modest dmax but is much more resistant to rub-off.
So, I'd first try to find a paper that, by its nature, protects the pigments relatively well. Printing a 100% black patch and rubbing a finger across it to see what works best is probably worth the effort.
With respect to sprays, I'd use the aerosol acrylic types. Lascaux Fixativ (non-UV) (buy from an art outlet like Jerry's or Blick) decreases the dmax of matte papers the least. Premier Art's Print Shield is a more typical glossy-photo type spray that has a more pronounced effect on the dmax. These are the two I use the most. Again, once you've decided on a paper, I'd test the 100% black to see what the best compromise is. I'd probably go for the Lascaux due to it's limited impact on dmax.
Again, however, I doubt you'll find GO gives you any significant protection.
Good luck with the book.
Paul
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:04 PM, benoit.lantoine@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
OK for the fading issueTo your knowledge, any advice about the rub off issue for a carbon-book project ?
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Gop over matte print ?
2014-09-25 by Mark Savoia
Hahnemühle makes a spray that works good with matte papers, I have seen very little loss of d-max with it.
Mark
On Sep 25, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
There is usually a trade-off between degree of rub off and dmax, with both the paper and spray. H. Photo Rag has great dmax, but if you look at the 100% black wrong it'll be damaged. On the other hand Premier Art Smooth fine art 205 (aka Epson Premier Art Scrapbook) has a modest dmax but is much more resistant to rub-off.So, I'd first try to find a paper that, by its nature, protects the pigments relatively well. Printing a 100% black patch and rubbing a finger across it to see what works best is probably worth the effort.With respect to sprays, I'd use the aerosol acrylic types. Lascaux Fixativ (non-UV) (buy from an art outlet like Jerry's or Blick) decreases the dmax of matte papers the least. Premier Art's Print Shield is a more typical glossy-photo type spray that has a more pronounced effect on the dmax. These are the two I use the most. Again, once you've decided on a paper, I'd test the 100% black to see what the best compromise is. I'd probably go for the Lascaux due to it's limited impact on dmax.Again, however, I doubt you'll find GO gives you any significant protection.Good luck with the book.Paul