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Display brightness

2015-03-01 by jacques.caron@...

Hi

I searched for an answer in the the group but I can't find an answer that is helpful.

I'm using an Eb-6 and 1430 combination; I'm getting better at profiling but as far as wysiwyg, I'm a bit off. Tried to create an "action" in Photoshop to alleviate the problem but it's quite hard.

Then I read that Apple displays are much too bright (I use a 27" iMac). Even though I calibrate my display with a Spyder4 probe and I control the "brightness" of the room, I can't seem to find who bright should be the display. Actually, I made some measurements and played with the brightness control of the iMac to see why's coming out (playing with the brightness after calibration); I "top" at 432 cd/m2.

Is there a "golden" number in brightness that I should work with?

Thanks

Jacques

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-01 by Mark Savoia

I calibrate all our iMac displays with brightness turned all the way down. We work in very subdued lighting conditions.

Mark
www.stillrivereditions.com

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> On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:48 AM, jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Then I read that Apple displays are much too bright

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-01 by Jacques Caron

All the way down??? With mine, it's almost total darkness!

You must work in a very subdued light! But I'll try that trick to see if it's better for me!

Thanks

Le 2015-03-01 à 10:51, "Mark Savoia mark@stillrivereditions.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I calibrate all our iMac displays with brightness turned all the way down. We work in very subdued lighting conditions.

Mark
www.stillrivereditions.com

> On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:48 AM, jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Then I read that Apple displays are much too bright

Jacques Caron

Photographe
jacques.caron@...

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-01 by John Castronovo

I've found that about 118 cd to be a good white level.

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I calibrate all our iMac displays with brightness turned all the way down. 
We work in very subdued lighting conditions.

Mark
www.stillrivereditions.com

> On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:48 AM, jacques.caron@... 
> [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] 
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> Then I read that Apple displays are much too bright

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Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-01 by Jacques Caron

Thanks! I'll start from there.

Having some numbers always help.

Jacques

Le 2015-03-01 à 11:48, "'John Castronovo' jc@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I've found that about 118 cd to be a good white level.

Jacques Caron

Photographe
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Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-01 by Paul Roark

As previously noted, the viewing conditions are a huge variable; more so in B&W than color, in my view.

What I have done is measure the light intensity of my main print viewing/showing area (the gallery) and then set up lighting in a nearby part of my office to match that.

I work in Gray Gamma 2.2 space. So, I print a test print using an ICC that has been made for the paper and ink combination, using QTR's Create ICC. (This is one area where the Epson driver compatibility comes in handy, maybe particularly for the Windows environment.)

My test print will contain both an appropriate landscape image (with difficult to separate dark values) and a 21-step test file. This print, put in the nearby light-adjusted, easily-visible area of my office is then matched on my monitor via my manual adjustments of the monitor controls and Nvidia Control Panel (reached via right click on the Desktop).

I only do B&W pro work and would not attempt to rely on manual control for a professional-caliber color workflow. I toggle between my manual settings and the OEM, default setting for, respectively, B&W v. color (casual) printing and watching videos.

FWIW

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com

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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

All the way down??? With mine, it's almost total darkness!

You must work in a very subdued light! But I'll try that trick to see if it's better for me!

Thanks

Le 2015-03-01 à 10:51, "Mark Savoia mark@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I calibrate all our iMac displays with brightness turned all the way down. We work in very subdued lighting conditions.

Mark
www.stillrivereditions.com

> On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:48 AM, jacques.caron@....ca [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Then I read that Apple displays are much too bright

Jacques Caron
Photographe
jacques.caron@...

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-01 by Jacques Caron

Thanks!

Following John Castronovo hint, I got the brightness down to 118 cd and re-calibrated my display with my Spyder4.

I work in grey gamma 2.2 also and, as noted, I want to get the best WYSIWYG possible.

One more thing, usually when someone is ordering a print, I go to where the print will be displayed, read the "brightness" of the room and print accordingly; since I can duplicate "any" environment brightness, this is why I'm searching for the best WYSIWYG combination with my screen and my prints.

I do black & white only too.

Thanks for the tips

Jacques

Le 2015-03-01 à 12:32, "Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

As previously noted, the viewing conditions are a huge variable; more so in B&W than color, in my view.

What I have done is measure the light intensity of my main print viewing/showing area (the gallery) and then set up lighting in a nearby part of my office to match that.

I work in Gray Gamma 2.2 space. So, I print a test print using an ICC that has been made for the paper and ink combination, using QTR's Create ICC. (This is one area where the Epson driver compatibility comes in handy, maybe particularly for the Windows environment.)

My test print will contain both an appropriate landscape image (with difficult to separate dark values) and a 21-step test file. This print, put in the nearby light-adjusted, easily-visible area of my office is then matched on my monitor via my manual adjustments of the monitor controls and Nvidia Control Panel (reached via right click on the Desktop).

I only do B&W pro work and would not attempt to rely on manual control for a professional-caliber color workflow. I toggle between my manual settings and the OEM, default setting for, respectively, B&W v. color (casual) printing and watching videos.

FWIW

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

All the way down??? With mine, it's almost total darkness!

You must work in a very subdued light! But I'll try that trick to see if it's better for me!

Thanks

Le 2015-03-01 à 10:51, "Mark Savoia mark@stillrivereditions.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I calibrate all our iMac displays with brightness turned all the way down. We work in very subdued lighting conditions.

Mark
www.stillrivereditions.com

Jacques Caron

Photographe
jacques.caron@...

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-01 by Brubaker family

I have my Dell 2209WA monitor set to 80 cd/M2 and have a pretty good relationship between the screen and the print.  When set this low your monitor is initially going to look too dim, but your eyes will adjust in time.  Also, I found that it took at least 55 minutes for the monitor to get to the set brightness.  The monitor is an IPS CCFL backlit design that was well rated when I bought it 4-5 years ago.  I am curious how fast LED backlit monitors reach the set brightness.

Recommendations I found when searching the net for brightness settings ranged between 80 and 120, but at the lower end for photo work.

The i1Display2 software also has you set the monitor's contrast all the way up to the highest setting as you start the process.

Mike Brubaker

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On Sun, 3/1/15, jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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 Subject: [Digital BW] Display brightness
 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 10:48 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       HiI searched for
 an answer in the the group but I can't find an answer
 that is helpful.
 I'm using an Eb-6 and
 1430 combination; I'm getting better at profiling but as
 far as wysiwyg, I'm a bit  off. Tried to create an
 "action" in Photoshop to alleviate the problem but
 it's quite hard.Then I read that
 Apple displays are much too bright (I use a 27" iMac).
 Even though I calibrate my display with a Spyder4 probe and
 I control the "brightness" of the room, I
 can't seem to find who bright should be the display.
 Actually, I made some measurements and played with the
 brightness control of the iMac to see why's coming out
 (playing with the brightness after calibration); I
 "top" at 432 cd/m2.
 Is there a
 "golden" number in brightness that I should work
 with?
 Thanks
 Jacques
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 #yiv2776780700 #yiv2776780700 --

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-01 by Jacques Caron

Thanks Mr.Brubaker

I went down to 118 cd. As there is no "contrast" button on my iMac, I must rely on the "brightness" one.

I did a calibration at that level with my Spyder4. You bet it's dim (even at 118); like you said , it's an adaptation process.

Thanks

Le 2015-03-01 à 16:20, "Brubaker family brubaker_family@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I have my Dell 2209WA monitor set to 80 cd/M2 and have a pretty good relationship between the screen and the print. When set this low your monitor is initially going to look too dim, but your eyes will adjust in time. Also, I found that it took at least 55 minutes for the monitor to get to the set brightness. The monitor is an IPS CCFL backlit design that was well rated when I bought it 4-5 years ago. I am curious how fast LED backlit monitors reach the set brightness.

Recommendations I found when searching the net for brightness settings ranged between 80 and 120, but at the lower end for photo work.

The i1Display2 software also has you set the monitor's contrast all the way up to the highest setting as you start the process.

Mike Brubaker

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RE: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-02 by Globe Trotteur

Mike, I do too have a dell 2209WA monitor. where do you set the 80 cd/M2? I looked through all the settings and do not see any options like that. Maybe it has another name. Could you help me?

Thanks.
Pierre-Olivier
http://www.PierreOlivierTavernier.com

To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 16:31:03 -0500
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

Thanks Mr.Brubaker

I went down to 118 cd. As there is no "contrast" button on my iMac, I must rely on the "brightness" one.

I did a calibration at that level with my Spyder4. You bet it's dim (even at 118); like you said , it's an adaptation process.

Thanks

Le 2015-03-01 à 16:20, "Brubaker family brubaker_family@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I have my Dell 2209WA monitor set to 80 cd/M2 and have a pretty good relationship between the screen and the print. When set this low your monitor is initially going to look too dim, but your eyes will adjust in time. Also, I found that it took at least 55 minutes for the monitor to get to the set brightness. The monitor is an IPS CCFL backlit design that was well rated when I bought it 4-5 years ago. I am curious how fast LED backlit monitors reach the set brightness.

Recommendations I found when searching the net for brightness settings ranged between 80 and 120, but at the lower end for photo work.

The i1Display2 software also has you set the monitor's contrast all the way up to the highest setting as you start the process.

Mike Brubaker

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RE: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-03 by Brubaker family

Pushing the bottom button on the controls on the lower right hand side of the screen brings up a settings menu which lists Brightness/Contrast at the top.  Then pushing the next button up puts the orange "cursor" on the brightness control.  Then the top two buttons allow you to raise or lower the brightness.  Mine is set at 10 to get the 80 cd/m2 as measured by my i1 Display 2 using the i1Match software.  The monitor controls use a scale and do not directly give cd/m2 readings.  I imagine that different units even of the same model give different cd/m2s at the same setting.  My contrast setting is at 100.

Hope this helps - any more questions please ask.

Mike Brubaker

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On Sun, 3/1/15, Globe Trotteur unglobetrotteur@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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 Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Display brightness
 To: "Digital Blackandwhite" <digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 8:05 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
 
 Mike, I do too have a dell 2209WA
 monitor. where do you set the 80 cd/M2? I looked through all
 the settings and do not see any options like that. Maybe it
 has another name. Could you help me?
  
 Thanks.
 Pierre-Olivier
 http://www.PierreOlivierTavernier.com
 
  
 To:
 DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
 From:
 DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 16:31:03 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Thanks Mr.Brubaker
 I
 went down to 118 cd. As there is no "contrast"
 button on my iMac, I must rely on the "brightness"
 one.
 I did a
 calibration at that level with my Spyder4. You bet it's
 dim (even at 118); like you said , it's an adaptation
 process.
 Thanks
 Le 2015-03-01 à 16:20,
 "Brubaker family brubaker_family@...
 [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
 a écrit :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
     I have my Dell
 2209WA monitor set to 80 cd/M2 and have a pretty good
 relationship between the screen and the print.  When set
 this low your monitor is initially going to look too dim,
 but your eyes will adjust in time.  Also, I found that it
 took at least 55 minutes for the monitor to get to the set
 brightness.  The monitor is an IPS CCFL backlit design that
 was well rated when I bought it 4-5 years ago.  I am curious
 how fast LED backlit monitors reach the set brightness.
 
 
 
 Recommendations I found when searching the net for
 brightness settings ranged between 80 and 120, but at the
 lower end for photo work.
 
 
 
 The i1Display2 software also has you set the monitor's
 contrast all the way up to the highest setting as you start
 the process.
 
 
 
 Mike Brubaker
 
 
 
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 #yiv2136079046 #yiv2136079046 --

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-03 by Brubaker family

I worked on profiling my son's Mac some years ago and ran into the issue that Apple didn't have a full range of controls for its monitors.  That really surprised me since the Macs have such a reputation for being graphics pro machines.  If I was buying new I sure wouldn't choose a Mac monitor that didn't have the needed controls.  I imagine the pros use the high bit depth monitors costing into the several thousands.  I'm not sure if Apple has any monitors that compete in that arena.

Mike Brubaker




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On Sun, 3/1/15, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@videotron.qc.ca [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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 Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness
 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 4:31 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Thanks Mr.Brubaker
 I went down to 118 cd. As there is
 no "contrast" button on my iMac, I must rely on
 the "brightness" one.
 I did a calibration at that level
 with my Spyder4. You bet it's dim (even at 118); like
 you said , it's an adaptation process.
 Thanks
 Le 2015-03-01 à 16:20,
 "Brubaker family brubaker_family@...
 [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
 a écrit :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
     I have my Dell
 2209WA monitor set to 80 cd/M2 and have a pretty good
 relationship between the screen and the print.  When set
 this low your monitor is initially going to look too dim,
 but your eyes will adjust in time.  Also, I found that it
 took at least 55 minutes for the monitor to get to the set
 brightness.  The monitor is an IPS CCFL backlit design that
 was well rated when I bought it 4-5 years ago.  I am curious
 how fast LED backlit monitors reach the set brightness.
 
 
 
 Recommendations I found when searching the net for
 brightness settings ranged between 80 and 120, but at the
 lower end for photo work.
 
 
 
 The i1Display2 software also has you set the monitor's
 contrast all the way up to the highest setting as you start
 the process.
 
 
 
 Mike Brubaker
 
 
 
 --------------------------------------------
 
 
 
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 #yiv1192999126 #yiv1192999126 --

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-03 by Jacques Caron

Hi Mr.Brubaker

That's what I thought; actually the "full range" must come when you use the dreaded Color Sync profiling done just looking at the screen and evaluate with your eyes what's best!?!

Since I always worked with two displays, I'll look for a second monitor coming from Eizo; at least I'll have some controls to play with.

Apple has no monitors able to compete with high end ones; actually the only offer they have, aside iMacs, is a 27" screen similar to the 27" iMac.

Jacques

Le 2015-03-02 à 21:22, "Brubaker family brubaker_family@yahoo.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I worked on profiling my son's Mac some years ago and ran into the issue that Apple didn't have a full range of controls for its monitors. That really surprised me since the Macs have such a reputation for being graphics pro machines. If I was buying new I sure wouldn't choose a Mac monitor that didn't have the needed controls. I imagine the pros use the high bit depth monitors costing into the several thousands. I'm not sure if Apple has any monitors that compete in that arena.

Mike Brubaker

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On Sun, 3/1/15, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 4:31 PM

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-03 by Nick Payne

I've been pretty impressed and have had zero problems with an Eizo EV3237 I bought a few months ago. It's an 80cm 4k monitor that covers the full sRGB gamut. However, you'll need a video card with a DisplayPort 1.2 connector to get 4k resolution at 60Hz - you can get full resolution over HDMI or DVI, but only at 30Hz, which I find rather tiring on the eyes.

Nick

On 03/03/2015 15:09, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:

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Hi Mr.Brubaker

That's what I thought; actually the "full range" must come when you use the dreaded Color Sync profiling done just looking at the screen and evaluate with your eyes what's best!?!

Since I always worked with two displays, I'll look for a second monitor coming from Eizo; at least I'll have some controls to play with.

Apple has no monitors able to compete with high end ones; actually the only offer they have, aside iMacs, is a 27" screen similar to the 27" iMac.

Jacques

Le 2015-03-02 \ufffd 21:22, "Brubaker family brubaker_family@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a \ufffdcrit :

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I worked on profiling my son's Mac some years ago and ran into the issue that Apple didn't have a full range of controls for its monitors. That really surprised me since the Macs have such a reputation for being graphics pro machines. If I was buying new I sure wouldn't choose a Mac monitor that didn't have the needed controls. I imagine the pros use the high bit depth monitors costing into the several thousands. I'm not sure if Apple has any monitors that compete in that arena.

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-03 by Jacques Caron

Hey Nick

Thanks! Since i'm looking for a new monitor, I'll check that model for sure.

I can't figure where I can get the information about the version of Display Port but since my iMac 27" is quite new (1 1/2 years) it should go smoothly.

Thanks again

Jacques

Le 2015-03-02 à 23:32, Nick Payne njhp94@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I've been pretty impressed and have had zero problems with an Eizo EV3237 I bought a few months ago. It's an 80cm 4k monitor that covers the full sRGB gamut. However, you'll need a video card with a DisplayPort 1.2 connector to get 4k resolution at 60Hz - you can get full resolution over HDMI or DVI, but only at 30Hz, which I find rather tiring on the eyes.

Nick

On 03/03/2015 15:09, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:

Hi Mr.Brubaker

That's what I thought; actually the "full range" must come when you use the dreaded Color Sync profiling done just looking at the screen and evaluate with your eyes what's best!?!

Since I always worked with two displays, I'll look for a second monitor coming from Eizo; at least I'll have some controls to play with.

Apple has no monitors able to compete with high end ones; actually the only offer they have, aside iMacs, is a 27" screen similar to the 27" iMac.

Jacques

Re: Display brightness

2015-03-03 by Michael-K

Mike, 2 things. First, would you trim the excess text off your posts? As is, one post of your includes about 4-5 screens of additional text that must be scrolled through to get to the next post. Those who are replying to you also include this excess text so there's a lot of scrolling taking place. This might only be an issue for those of us who read the forum via the "daily digest" method; there's a bunch of us.

Your comments about the lack of controls on the Mac monitor make me think that they rely on the colorimiter's software to set the contrast and brightness. With a Munki Photo colorimeter there are two methods for setting up a monitor, the easy and advanced methods. The easy method uses their software to adjust these settings behind the curtain while the advanced method has one physically interact with the monitor to manipulate some of the controls before the software takes over. I've tried both methods with the Munki Photo and, if one sets the advanced manual controls to the Munki recommended defaults, e.g., 125 candelas, both methods provide profiles that look the same on screen.

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-03 by Un Globe Trotteur

Ok then. Brightness at 10 and contrast at 100. I will try that tonight. Thanks
Pierre

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To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Display brightness

Pushing the bottom button on the controls on the lower right hand side of the screen brings up a settings menu which lists Brightness/Contrast at the top. Then pushing the next button up puts the orange "cursor" on the brightness control. Then the top two buttons allow you to raise or lower the brightness. Mine is set at 10 to get the 80 cd/m2 as measured by my i1 Display 2 using the i1Match software. The monitor controls use a scale and do not directly give cd/m2 readings. I imagine that different units even of the same model give different cd/m2s at the same setting. My contrast setting is at 100.

Hope this helps - any more questions please ask.

Mike Brubaker

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-04 by Nick Payne

I'm not a Mac owner, but I think you might find that your iMac only supports 4k at 30Hz. See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202856, which indicates that only late 2014 iMacs provide 60Hz support. And there is a long thread (300+ replies) at https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6080897?tstart=0 regarding display problems on Macs with 4k monitors.

I'm using the monitor on Windows, initially with an nVidia GTX 650 Ti Boost card and now with an nVidia Quadro k2200 card.

On 04/03/2015 01:04, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:

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Hey Nick

Thanks! Since i'm looking for a new monitor, I'll check that model for sure.

I can't figure where I can get the information about the version of Display Port but since my iMac 27" is quite new (1 1/2 years) it should go smoothly.

Thanks again

Jacques

Le 2015-03-02 \ufffd 23:32, Nick Payne njhp94@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a \ufffdcrit :

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I've been pretty impressed and have had zero problems with an Eizo EV3237 I bought a few months ago. It's an 80cm 4k monitor that covers the full sRGB gamut. However, you'll need a video card with a DisplayPort 1.2 connector to get 4k resolution at 60Hz - you can get full resolution over HDMI or DVI, but only at 30Hz, which I find rather tiring on the eyes.

Nick

On 03/03/2015 15:09, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:

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Hi Mr.Brubaker

That's what I thought; actually the "full range" must come when you use the dreaded Color Sync profiling done just looking at the screen and evaluate with your eyes what's best!?!

Since I always worked with two displays, I'll look for a second monitor coming from Eizo; at least I'll have some controls to play with.

Apple has no monitors able to compete with high end ones; actually the only offer they have, aside iMacs, is a 27" screen similar to the 27" iMac.

Re: [Digital BW] Display brightness

2015-03-04 by Jacques Caron

So it means that I should ask first and try if possible before buying!

Thanks for the tip

Jacques

Le 2015-03-03 à 20:51, "Nick Payne njhp94@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

I'm not a Mac owner, but I think you might find that your iMac only supports 4k at 30Hz. See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202856, which indicates that only late 2014 iMacs provide 60Hz support. And there is a long thread (300+ replies) at https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6080897?tstart=0 regarding display problems on Macs with 4k monitors.

I'm using the monitor on Windows, initially with an nVidia GTX 650 Ti Boost card and now with an nVidia Quadro k2200 card.

On 04/03/2015 01:04, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:

Hey Nick

Thanks! Since i'm looking for a new monitor, I'll check that model for sure.

I can't figure where I can get the information about the version of Display Port but since my iMac 27" is quite new (1 1/2 years) it should go smoothly.

Thanks again

Jacques