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Mounting methods ... adhesive

Mounting methods ... adhesive

2015-04-26 by Lew Schwartz

I need to mount a print on what I call beaverboard ... the brown brittle particle board stuff. This is a competition requirement. My question is what's the best way to go? Dry mount, spray adhesive, etc ... It's an rc print so I can't heat it too much.

-Lew Schwartz

Re: [Digital BW] Mounting methods ... adhesive

2015-04-26 by David Kachel

If they require you to destroy your image in this way, the best advice is to cancel your participation. Be sure to tell them why.


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From: "Lew Schwartz lew1716@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 10:50 AM
To: <Lightroom@yahoogroups.com>, <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>, <EPSON_Printers@yahoogroups.com>, Leica Users Group <lug@...>
Subject: [Digital BW] Mounting methods ... adhesive

I need to mount a print on what I call beaverboard ... the brown brittle particle board stuff. This is a competition requirement. My question is what's the best way to go? Dry mount, spray adhesive, etc ... It's an rc print so I can't heat it too much.

Re: [Digital BW] Mounting methods ... adhesive

2015-04-26 by Lew Schwartz

That doesn't help, David. They are nice people & have a way to go. It's just an rc proof of something I've properly printed and framed before.


-Lew Schwartz
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, David Kachel david@davidkachel.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

If they require you to destroy your image in this way, the best advice is to cancel your participation. Be sure to tell them why.


David Kachel

___________________

Artist-Photographer
Fine B&W Photographs


PO Box 173
Globe, AZ 85502

From: "Lew Schwartz lew1716@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]"; <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
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Date: Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 10:50 AM
To: <Lightroom@yahoogroups.com>, <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>, <EPSON_Printers@yahoogroups.com>, Leica Users Group <lug@...>
Subject: [Digital BW] Mounting methods ... adhesive

I need to mount a print on what I call beaverboard ... the brown brittle particle board stuff. This is a competition requirement. My question is what's the best way to go? Dry mount, spray adhesive, etc ... It's an rc print so I can't heat it too much.


Re: [Digital BW] Mounting methods ... adhesive

2015-04-26 by Peter Marshall

Double-sided tape is quick, clean and easy and sounds ideal for this. Along all four edges

But don't use it for anything you value - but that wouldn't be on RC anyway.

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On 26/04/2015 19:34, Lew Schwartz lew1716@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:
That doesn't help, David. They are nice people & have a way to go. It's just an rc proof of something I've properly printed and framed before.


-Lew Schwartz

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, David Kachel david@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
If they require you to destroy your image in this way, the best advice is to cancel your participation. Be sure to tell them why.


David Kachel

___________________

Artist-Photographer
Fine B&W Photographs


PO Box 173
Globe, AZ 85502

From: "Lew Schwartz lew1716@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 10:50 AM
To: <Lightroom@yahoogroups.com>, <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>, <EPSON_Printers@yahoogroups.com>, Leica Users Group <lug@...>
Subject: [Digital BW] Mounting methods ... adhesive

I need to mount a print on what I call beaverboard ... the brown brittle particle board stuff. This is a competition requirement. My question is what's the best way to go? Dry mount, spray adhesive, etc ... It's an rc print so I can't heat it too much.


Canon Pixma Pro-100 and B+W

2015-04-26 by Sanders McNew

I’ve been looking for a reasonably simple way back into B+W inkjet printing.  Based on my unscientific sense of how dye and pigment inks look on papers, I decided to go with a dye-ink printer.  Okay, they will not last 200 years, but neither will I.  

After exchanging emails with Paul Roark, I bought a Canon Pixma Pro-100 printer, which runs a 3k dye-based inkset that is supposed to have better longevity.  My initial experiences were not good — my prints all had a significant purple cast.

In desperation I called Canon tech support.  They are saints.  Within 10 minutes I was printing gorgeous B+W prints.  My mistake (I blame the installation instructions) was that I connected the printer wirelessly to my Mac using the AirPrint/Bonjour communications protocol, whereas I should have chosen the “Canon IJ” protocol when setting it up.  My bad.

Now that I know how to make it work, the B+W prints out of this machine are just spectacular.  For the past week I’ve been printing onto two papers, Ilford Prestige Gold Mono Silk and Canson Platine Fibre Rag.  For most prints I am preferring the Canson but the Ilford paper is lovely as well.  I have a sampler pack of Hahnemuhle papers but I’m so pleased with the Canson and Ilford papers that I might not get around to testing the Hahnemuhle paper for a very long time.  I don’t have other recent inkjet prints to use as comparisons, but the Pixma-100 prints on the Ilford and Canson papers hold their own next to my darkroom prints on Adox MCC-110 baryta paper.

If any other list members are printing with the Pro-100, I am eager to hear of your experiences with B+W printing, and which papers are (or aren’t) working for you.

Best regards,

Sanders McNew
www.flickr.com/sandersnyc

RE: [Digital BW] Canon Pixma Pro-100 and B+W

2015-04-26 by Mike Johnston

I have the Pro-1 and it produces great B&W too.

I was able to use chart-throb and create a curve for Epson Cold Press Bright and the prints 
look as good (or better) than when I was using an Epson 1400 with MIS K6.

 

Mike J.
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Subject: [Digital BW] Canon Pixma Pro-100 and B+W

 

  

I’ve been looking for a reasonably simple way back into B+W inkjet printing. Based on my unscientific sense of how dye and pigment inks look on papers, I decided to go with a dye-ink printer. Okay, they will not last 200 years, but neither will I. 

After exchanging emails with Paul Roark, I bought a Canon Pixma Pro-100 printer, which runs a 3k dye-based inkset that is supposed to have better longevity. My initial experiences were not good — my prints all had a significant purple cast. 

In desperation I called Canon tech support. They are saints. Within 10 minutes I was printing gorgeous B+W prints. My mistake (I blame the installation instructions) was that I connected the printer wirelessly to my Mac using the AirPrint/Bonjour communications protocol, whereas I should have chosen the “Canon IJ” protocol when setting it up. My bad. 

Now that I know how to make it work, the B+W prints out of this machine are just spectacular. For the past week I’ve been printing onto two papers, Ilford Prestige Gold Mono Silk and Canson Platine Fibre Rag. For most prints I am preferring the Canson but the Ilford paper is lovely as well. I have a sampler pack of Hahnemuhle papers but I’m so pleased with the Canson and Ilford papers that I might not get around to testing the Hahnemuhle paper for a very long time. I don’t have other recent inkjet prints to use as comparisons, but the Pixma-100 prints on the Ilford and Canson papers hold their own next to my darkroom prints on Adox MCC-110 baryta paper. 

If any other list members are printing with the Pro-100, I am eager to hear of your experiences with B+W printing, and which papers are (or aren’t) working for you. 

Best regards, 

Sanders McNew 
www.flickr.com/sandersnyc

Re: [Digital BW] Canon Pixma Pro-100 and B+W

2015-04-27 by Paul Roark

It sounds like you're on your way to some happy printing.

I would say the quality of the profiles is going to be a major factor.

Have you tried an metallic paper yet? For high impact, I am rather fond of the Red River Polar Pearl Metallic. You might want to check out this:

Paul
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Sanders McNew sanders@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I’ve been looking for a reasonably simple way back into B+W inkjet printing. Based on my unscientific sense of how dye and pigment inks look on papers, I decided to go with a dye-ink printer. Okay, they will not last 200 years, but neither will I.

After exchanging emails with Paul Roark, I bought a Canon Pixma Pro-100 printer, which runs a 3k dye-based inkset that is supposed to have better longevity. My initial experiences were not good — my prints all had a significant purple cast.

In desperation I called Canon tech support. They are saints. Within 10 minutes I was printing gorgeous B+W prints. My mistake (I blame the installation instructions) was that I connected the printer wirelessly to my Mac using the AirPrint/Bonjour communications protocol, whereas I should have chosen the “Canon IJ” protocol when setting it up. My bad.

Now that I know how to make it work, the B+W prints out of this machine are just spectacular. For the past week I’ve been printing onto two papers, Ilford Prestige Gold Mono Silk and Canson Platine Fibre Rag. For most prints I am preferring the Canson but the Ilford paper is lovely as well. I have a sampler pack of Hahnemuhle papers but I’m so pleased with the Canson and Ilford papers that I might not get around to testing the Hahnemuhle paper for a very long time. I don’t have other recent inkjet prints to use as comparisons, but the Pixma-100 prints on the Ilford and Canson papers hold their own next to my darkroom prints on Adox MCC-110 baryta paper.

If any other list members are printing with the Pro-100, I am eager to hear of your experiences with B+W printing, and which papers are (or aren’t) working for you.

Best regards,

Sanders McNew
www.flickr.com/sandersnyc



Drydown //Re: [Digital BW] Canon Pixma Pro-100 and B+W

2015-05-04 by Sanders McNew

Paul, and the list:

I am coming to realize I cannot judge a print based on how it looks out of the Pixma Pro-100. Prints can have a color-cast when printed, only to look neutral after a couple of hours. And prints that look muddy straight from the machine brighten up as they dry.

Is this common with dye-based inksets and prints? (I am using Canson Platine Fibre Rag with Canson’s profile if that matters.) If so, then how do you accommodate this in your workflow?

Also, if it matters, I am using the Canon print software, Print Studio Pro, to control the printer and the inkset. I’ve found it really easy to use and it has some impressive proofing capabilities built into it. I assume that the drydown changes I am seeing are endemic to dye inks, independent of software, but please tell me if I am mistaken.

Regards,

Sanders


On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Paul Roark roark.paul@gmail.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


It sounds like you're on your way to some happy printing.

I would say the quality of the profiles is going to be a major factor.

Have you tried an metallic paper yet? For high impact, I am rather fond of the Red River Polar Pearl Metallic. You might want to check out this:

Paul

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Sanders McNew sanders@mcnew.net[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I’ve been looking for a reasonably simple way back into B+W inkjet printing. Based on my unscientific sense of how dye and pigment inks look on papers, I decided to go with a dye-ink printer. Okay, they will not last 200 years, but neither will I.

After exchanging emails with Paul Roark, I bought a Canon Pixma Pro-100 printer, which runs a 3k dye-based inkset that is supposed to have better longevity. My initial experiences were not good — my prints all had a significant purple cast.

In desperation I called Canon tech support. They are saints. Within 10 minutes I was printing gorgeous B+W prints. My mistake (I blame the installation instructions) was that I connected the printer wirelessly to my Mac using the AirPrint/Bonjour communications protocol, whereas I should have chosen the “Canon IJ” protocol when setting it up. My bad.

Now that I know how to make it work, the B+W prints out of this machine are just spectacular. For the past week I’ve been printing onto two papers, Ilford Prestige Gold Mono Silk and Canson Platine Fibre Rag. For most prints I am preferring the Canson but the Ilford paper is lovely as well. I have a sampler pack of Hahnemuhle papers but I’m so pleased with the Canson and Ilford papers that I might not get around to testing the Hahnemuhle paper for a very long time. I don’t have other recent inkjet prints to use as comparisons, but the Pixma-100 prints on the Ilford and Canson papers hold their own next to my darkroom prints on Adox MCC-110 baryta paper.

If any other list members are printing with the Pro-100, I am eager to hear of your experiences with B+W printing, and which papers are (or aren’t) working for you.

Best regards,

Sanders McNew
www.flickr.com/sandersnyc





Re: Drydown //Re: [Digital BW] Canon Pixma Pro-100 and B+W

2015-05-04 by Paul Roark

I have not seen a significant color shift from dry down with the Claria/Noritsu inks I'm using. I have been using mostly the Red River Polar Pearl Metallic paper. There is, of course, more metamerism & color inconstancy than with carbon pigments, and this issue is mostly limited to fluorescent lights.

The serious color shifts with drying remind me of the old style dyes. I9;m surprised Canon is afflicted with the problem.

Paul
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On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Sanders McNew sanders@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>; wrote:

Paul, and the list:

I am coming to realize I cannot judge a print based on how it looks out of the Pixma Pro-100. Prints can have a color-cast when printed, only to look neutral after a couple of hours. And prints that look muddy straight from the machine brighten up as they dry.

Is this common with dye-based inksets and prints? (I am using Canson Platine Fibre Rag with Canson’s profile if that matters.) If so, then how do you accommodate this in your workflow?

Also, if it matters, I am using the Canon print software, Print Studio Pro, to control the printer and the inkset. I’ve found it really easy to use and it has some impressive proofing capabilities built into it. I assume that the drydown changes I am seeing are endemic to dye inks, independent of software, but please tell me if I am mistaken.

Regards,

Sanders


On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m> wrote:


It sounds like you're on your way to some happy printing.

I would say the quality of the profiles is going to be a major factor.

Have you tried an metallic paper yet? For high impact, I am rather fond of the Red River Polar Pearl Metallic. You might want to check out this:

Paul

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Sanders McNew sanders@...[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I’ve been looking for a reasonably simple way back into B+W inkjet printing. Based on my unscientific sense of how dye and pigment inks look on papers, I decided to go with a dye-ink printer. Okay, they will not last 200 years, but neither will I.

After exchanging emails with Paul Roark, I bought a Canon Pixma Pro-100 printer, which runs a 3k dye-based inkset that is supposed to have better longevity. My initial experiences were not good — my prints all had a significant purple cast.

In desperation I called Canon tech support. They are saints. Within 10 minutes I was printing gorgeous B+W prints. My mistake (I blame the installation instructions) was that I connected the printer wirelessly to my Mac using the AirPrint/Bonjour communications protocol, whereas I should have chosen the “Canon IJ” protocol when setting it up. My bad.

Now that I know how to make it work, the B+W prints out of this machine are just spectacular. For the past week I’ve been printing onto two papers, Ilford Prestige Gold Mono Silk and Canson Platine Fibre Rag. For most prints I am preferring the Canson but the Ilford paper is lovely as well. I have a sampler pack of Hahnemuhle papers but I’m so pleased with the Canson and Ilford papers that I might not get around to testing the Hahnemuhle paper for a very long time. I don’t have other recent inkjet prints to use as comparisons, but the Pixma-100 prints on the Ilford and Canson papers hold their own next to my darkroom prints on Adox MCC-110 baryta paper.

If any other list members are printing with the Pro-100, I am eager to hear of your experiences with B+W printing, and which papers are (or aren’t) working for you.

Best regards,

Sanders McNew
www.flickr.com/sandersnyc






Re: Mounting methods ... adhesive

2015-05-08 by djon43@...

Canon Pro-10 may be better overall than Pro-100 for B&W.. Pro-10 has an un-named driver that's equivalent to Epson ABW tho Canon doesn't mention it in documentation (don't know if Pro-100 has that driver). Readily equal to Epson 3880 in the dozen examples I've seen.

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mounting methods ... adhesive

2015-05-08 by hrblaine@...

I hope not, I just bought a 100 but haven't tried it yet.  I bought it  for 
B/W, I have a 9000 for color.
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2015 1:13:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com writes:

Canon  Pro-10 may be better overall than Pro-100 for B&W..

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mounting methods ... adhesive

2015-05-08 by hrblaine@...

And yes, I know it's a dye printer but he!!, I'm 84, just  hoping prints 
last 4 or 5 years!  :-)
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2015 1:24:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com writes:

I hope  not, I just bought a 100 but haven't tried it yet.  I bought it for 
B/W,

Re: Mounting methods ... adhesive

2015-05-09 by Clayton Price

Re: Mounting Methods - adhesive
 2 of you wrote 3 messages, entitled:  1a , 2a, and 3a- Mounting Methods, on May 8.

However, your subject titles, which would be interesting, certainly to me, and I'd wager,
a bunch of others on this list, continue to talk about different computers and drivers.

And this type of things happen often on this list -- about wrongly labeled posts --
Is there nobody around who pays attention any more?

Perhaps it's time to escape from this  group, which would be sad, because over
the years, it's been  very helpful for a lot of useful information to a lot of people!

clayton price
NYC

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