Digital BW, The Print

I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good 
choice for slide film to use to photograph black & white prints.  
 You might like Agfa Scala. It is a monochromatic slide film which can be 
purchased by mail order from B & H. Photo in NYC. It can be processed by 
Duggal Labs, also in NYC, or you can purchase mailers to have the film 
processed by another lab in Florida. (That lab is the less expensive route, 
but turnaround will be longer) B & H carries those mailers.
Of course a good slow E6 film can do a nice job, but you'll have to test for 
the filtration to get what you want. 
George J Kunze

Scala.  Black and White positive film.  Gets rave reviews by most users. 

difficulity is getting it processed.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: djwolfe5@... 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:36 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] OT - Slide Film for Photographing Black & White Images


  I have been using MIS quadtones for about a year now and I am 
  starting to get comfortable enough with the results to enter some 
  prints into competitions.  Since most juried compatitions require 
  slides for entry, I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good 
  choice for slide film to use to photograph black & white prints.  
  Thanks.   


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Agfa Scala, if you can get it processed somewhere.

There is a method of developing T Max 100 into slides, You could probably
get the data sheets from Kodak.

Jerry

I would think that this day and age you could just send a file on a disk or
a nice print.





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> I have been using MIS quadtones for about a year now and I am
> starting to get comfortable enough with the results to enter some
> prints into competitions.  Since most juried compatitions require
> slides for entry, I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good
> choice for slide film to use to photograph black & white prints.
> Thanks.
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> > I have been using MIS quadtones for about a year now and I am
> > starting to get comfortable enough with the results to enter some
> > prints into competitions.  Since most juried compatitions require
> > slides for entry, I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good
> > choice for slide film to use to photograph black & white prints.

In the past, we did a lot of copy work, including copying b&w photos.  We have found that Fuji's Velvia
transparency film was very neutral, and provided a smooth tonal range.

That said, your lighting setup is just as important as your film in getting 'neutral' results.  We used
ProFoto strobes, which are very neutral (color temp) at any setting.  This would be true of all of the 'high
end' studio strobes, like Broncolor, Elinchrom etc.  The problem with using the less expensive strobes (like
White Lightning) is that their color temps change with power settings (the lower the output, the cooler they
get), and even on the highest settings, they are still 'blue'.

The problem with tungsten film and hot lights, is that the lights change color temperature as they age, so
there is some lack of consistency, they are still pretty good.

The idea of going to a color film, as compared to B&W, is that all black and white images actually do posses a
color, and b&w film would not represent that.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC


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> The problem with tungsten film and hot lights, is that the lights 
change color temperature as they age, so
> there is some lack of consistency, they are still pretty good.

If you are going to do a lot of this, try some Lowel Tota-Lites. They 
are designed for the film industry and are very stable over a long 
period of time, also have no "hot spot" like standard tungsten 
lights. I have used them to photograph all kinds of artwork.

I think they have done away with the DP (Direct Processing) kits that 
used to be available from Koda for reversal processing of B&W films 
into slides. These produced a very nice B&W slide, and could be 
selenium toned for color change and contrast.

Ektachrome 64 works well, but you have to do some CC Filtering to get 
rid of color casts.

Butch Hulett

> I would think that this day and age you could just send a file on a disk or
> a nice print.
>

The places that offer competitions have not upgraded their technology yet.  Most times, they want 5  slides,
and they are projected simultaneously by five slide projectors, and the 'committee', judges them off of a
large projector screen.  They never want actual prints to view until the end.  Having prints to handle would
be a logistical nightmare.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC


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