Digital BW, The Print

I'm very, very glad I found this group.

I'm also having a hell of a good time with my 1160: there's a 
portfolio of b/w work I've been meaning to make for someone, 
and now I'm working in earnest on it, with a positive reaction to 
test prints (all in the week since I started doing this). I need to do 
some tweaking with curves a bit, but I'm pretty much "there", 
which stuns me.

One question: if I'm to judge from the posts I've read, it seems as 
if I'm the only person here working with Luminos' Lumijet 
Monochrome inkset. I think they were a bit slow on the uptake to 
get into producing these inks vs. Lyson, Peizo et al, but my initial 
results have been quite good (and I've loved their papers for 
color work). Not that it matter that much in my choices (heaven 
forbid we all agree on one true method/material, and I'm not 
being sarcastic), but is there anyone else working with Lumijet 
inks out here, and if so, with which paper(s)?

P.S., the signal/noise ration of this group continues to impress 
me.

You are not alone! I started out with Luminos monochrome inks, 
and then switched to Lyson when I found out they are the same 
inks and in fact make them for Luminos....and are a lot cheaper! 
I've tested numerous papers and have have finally settled on 
Hahnemuhle Photo Rag, which gives the best results with these 
inks. For a semi gloss look, I've found that the Epson Luster is 
very good. I'm using an Epson 1200 with a continuous flow 
system from CIS and buy the inks in bulk (4oz bottles), which 
makes the inks even cheaper. I've had no problem with these 
inks clogging my heads, and everything works like a dream.
I still don't understand why nobody on here seems to know about 
the Lyson inks, or if they do, they're not discussing it, especially 
considering you don't have to do any tweaking to get great prints. 
I just convert my color image to gray scale and then back to RGB 
and print as normal.....no fuss, no muss.....couldn't be easier! 
By the way, I'm a professional photographer, and DO know what 
a good prints looks like, and am very picky when it comes to print 
quality....and this delivers.
Happy printing!
Don

Hello Don,
I am using MIS original black pigmented bulk inks in a
dedicated Epson 1200 printer. I did not buy the Piezo
Software Driver because it was too expensive to make
my printer work simply because  the ink companies put
the various shades of grey in ink positions to force
you to buy the software in the first place. So, I put
the various shades of grey into ink positions where I
thought they should be.
   I put the 75% ink into the cyan and magenta ink
positions...45% ink into the photo cyan and photo
magenta ink positions...25% ink into the yellow ink
position...For Epson Premium Luster Photo Paper, I set
the Epson 1200 Printer on Photo Paper...
Ink: Color...1440 DPI...Error Diffusion...Microweave:
on...Color Management: Color Adjustment...Mode: Photo
Realistic...Brightness: +20...Contrast:
-10...Saturation, Cyan, Magenta and Yellow is set at
0...
  I import my image in the RGB Mode Desaturated.
Actually, there are several other ways to get your
image into RGB mode such as Image/ Adjust/ Channel
Mixer starting with Red at 60%, Green at 20% & Blue at
20%...I make sure that the percentages add up to
100%...I just play around with it to get the right
looking grey scale.
  Anyway, these are my questions. (1) Are these black
inks from Lyson pigmented. (2) If so, do you fill your
own cartridges. (3) How are the cartridges from lyson
filled according to ink postions. (4) Are there any
adjustments that you make in order to have your prints
to be close to what you see on your screen...I'd love
to hear your feedback...

Grady Carter    
--- Cameraguy5 <frenchpassive@...> wrote:
> You are not alone! I started out with Luminos
> monochrome inks, 
> and then switched to Lyson when I found out they are
> the same 
> inks and in fact make them for Luminos....and are a
> lot cheaper! 
> I've tested numerous papers and have have finally
> settled on 
> Hahnemuhle Photo Rag, which gives the best results
> with these 
> inks. For a semi gloss look, I've found that the
> Epson Luster is 
> very good. I'm using an Epson 1200 with a continuous
> flow 
> system from CIS and buy the inks in bulk (4oz
> bottles), which 
> makes the inks even cheaper. I've had no problem
> with these 
> inks clogging my heads, and everything works like a
> dream.
> I still don't understand why nobody on here seems to
> know about 
> the Lyson inks, or if they do, they're not
> discussing it, especially 
> considering you don't have to do any tweaking to get
> great prints. 
> I just convert my color image to gray scale and then
> back to RGB 
> and print as normal.....no fuss, no
> muss.....couldn't be easier! 
> By the way, I'm a professional photographer, and DO
> know what 
> a good prints looks like, and am very picky when it
> comes to print 
> quality....and this delivers.
> Happy printing!
> Don
> 
> 
> 


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Grady,
I don't refill cartridges.....I use a continuous flow system from 
CIS. They are dye based inks, but according to everything I've 
read, their quad blacks are archival 100+ years. The bottles of 
ink are marked to match the colors of the print head. I do no 
other printing adjustments other than lightness/darkness and 
contrast in Photoshop before I print. I have my monitor balanced 
to match the printer output, so what I see is what I get....perfect 
results everytime.
Hope this was helpful.
Don