Digital BW, The Print

Bernd,

The printer and Photoshop Color setting are vitally important to make the MIS Vari-Tones work. Obviously the curves are written with Paul's and Jerry's settings. Perhaps you might confirm these setting with Jerry O. Otherwise the 1290 may require different curves than the 1280.

Regards,

Michael J. Kravit, AIA
Architect/Photographer
www.kravit.net/photography


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Bernd, this sounds like you've got one or more of the inks in the wrong tube position. Did you install them
as per label on the bottles?  yellow to yellow tube, photo cyan to photo cyan tube, etc? This is the
correct way for the 6 color set of ink. I get beautiful prints with Paul's curves.

I think it makes a difference.

The earlier MIS quad inks went into different positions, I believe.

Jerry





" Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." wrote:

> Paul,
> in a hurry (have to go to work soon):
> just installed Mis Variable Mix on an Epson 1290 (!) using your
> 1280 curves. Prints are absolut muddy, heavy posterization.
> Installing, nozzles, adjustment - everything fine.
> Any comments?
>
> Killed my 1270, 1290 is the follower in Germany, 1280 not
> available.
>
> Thanks, Bernd
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage often and check the resources their regularly. The page can be found at:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
>
>
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Bernd, you did change the grayscale to an rgb color file, and load the curve from an adjustment layer WITHIN photoshop, right?  Don't load it in the transfer curve dialogue box on the page setup page!

Jerry




"Michael J. Kravit" wrote:

> Bernd,
>
> The printer and Photoshop Color setting are vitally important to make the MIS Vari-Tones work. Obviously the curves are written with Paul's and Jerry's settings. Perhaps you might confirm these setting with Jerry O. Otherwise the 1290 may require different curves than the 1280.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael J. Kravit, AIA
> Architect/Photographer
> www.kravit.net/photography
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage often and check the resources their regularly. The page can be found at:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Bernd,

You wrote:

>just installed Mis Variable Mix on an Epson 1290 (!) using your
>1280 curves. Prints are absolut muddy, heavy posterization.

Every printer type seems to require a separate set of curves.  Check the
setup settings again, including the color settings in Photoshop.  If they
are correct (that is, as specified in the MIS 1280 workflow page or my
standard transmittal letter), then we'll have to make some new curves for
the 1290.  If you have a good flatbed scanner, we can do it via e-mail.

Any idea why Epson has a different printer for Europe than the US?

Paul

Paul,

My understanding is that the 1280 and the 1290 are the same printer 
other than model number and power supply, but I could be wrong.

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Bernd,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >just installed Mis Variable Mix on an Epson 1290 (!) using your
> >1280 curves. Prints are absolut muddy, heavy posterization.
> 
> Every printer type seems to require a separate set of curves.  
Check the
> setup settings again, including the color settings in Photoshop.  
If they
> are correct (that is, as specified in the MIS 1280 workflow page or 
my
> standard transmittal letter), then we'll have to make some new 
curves for
> the 1290.  If you have a good flatbed scanner, we can do it via e-
mail.

> 
> Any idea why Epson has a different printer for Europe than the US?
> 
> Paul

The easiest test for this is probably to run a nozzle check. Then find out
which gray density ink should go into which color position, and see if it
matches on your nozzle test pattern.

For instance if the nozzle test sequence (I'm making this sequence up cause
I don't remember the real order) is CcMmY, and you know that the C position
takes the darkest ink after black, see if it's the darkest in your nozzle
test, if the Magenta position takes the next darkest ink, is it's position
the next darkest in the nozzle test, and so on....

Todd

> Bernd, this sounds like you've got one or more of the inks in the wrong tube
> position. Did you install them
> as per label on the bottles?  yellow to yellow tube, photo cyan to photo cyan
> tube, etc? This is the
> correct way for the 6 color set of ink. I get beautiful prints with Paul's
> curves.
> 
> I think it makes a difference.
> 
> The earlier MIS quad inks went into different positions, I believe.
> 
> Jerry