Digital BW, The Print

. I also gave strict orders to my students that they were
> not allowed to shoot barns, flowers, bees on flowers, babies, kids
> with ice cream, puppies, bums, etc. That was MY idea, not his ;-).
>
Steve, Martin Parr goes further when he teaches. He says that everyone has
the potential to take thousands of sentimental photos. DONT DO IT!

Julian

>> I also gave strict orders to my students that they were
>> not allowed to shoot barns, flowers, bees on flowers, babies, kids
>> with ice cream, puppies, bums, etc. That was MY idea, not his ;-).
 
> Steve, Martin Parr goes further when he teaches. He says that everyone has
> the potential to take thousands of sentimental photos. DONT DO IT!

Yes, but eventually even photos of transvestites playing cribbage under
water may become trite. Isn't the challenge to be able to "speak through
your own voice" with whatever you shoot?

I mean a lot of photographers go to all kinds of exotic places to make their
images, and they can be lovely, nothing wrong with that, but I'm equally
interested in a photo that I can tell on first sight "that's a Keith
Carter", "that's a Ralph Gibson", etc. I love to see what guys like that can
do with puppies and babies.

I think a more powerful exercise would be to have students ONLY photograph
the prosaic but to do so in their own style.

Todd

Todd,

> Yes, but eventually even photos of transvestites playing cribbage under
> water may become trite.

This is a major problem for all shooters. especially
documentary/journalistic.


Isn't the challenge to be able to "speak through
> your own voice" with whatever you shoot?

and you have outlined the goal. This was the main thrust of the only photo
course I've ever been on by Charlie Harbutt.

>
> I mean a lot of photographers go to all kinds of exotic places to make
their
> images, and they can be lovely, nothing wrong with that, but I'm equally
> interested in a photo that I can tell on first sight "that's a Keith
> Carter", "that's a Ralph Gibson", etc. I love to see what guys like that
can
> do with puppies and babies.


As an exercise I agree with you, but if you have your own voice...

>
> I think a more powerful exercise would be to have students ONLY photograph
> the prosaic but to do so in their own style.


One of the labs in the uk sponsors a student competition every year where
students shoot the alphabet. It is amazing how every year this produces some
amazing results.


Julian

on 4/6/02 1:00 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:

>> Isn't the challenge to be able to "speak through
>> your own voice" with whatever you shoot?
> 
> and you have outlined the goal. This was the main thrust of the only photo
> course I've ever been on by Charlie Harbutt.

I'm jealous! Charles Harbutt was a contributor to a book I love called "The
Darkroom" by Lustrum Press. There were two volumes, and each had ten
renowned photographers discuss their approach and methods in the darkroom. I
fell in love with most most of the contributors, but Charles was one of my
favorites. Since then I've seen a couple of his exhibits. He da man.

Todd

I didn't know that he did any darkroom books. I'd seen a couple of his photo
books (all street stuff - well you know the stuff I do) - and the blurb
about his 'ex Magnum presidency' was enough to convince me. he's at
Duckspool again this year www.duckspool.co.uk

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Flashner" <tflash@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Picker


> on 4/6/02 1:00 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:
>
> >> Isn't the challenge to be able to "speak through
> >> your own voice" with whatever you shoot?
> >
> > and you have outlined the goal. This was the main thrust of the only
photo
> > course I've ever been on by Charlie Harbutt.
>
> I'm jealous! Charles Harbutt was a contributor to a book I love called
"The
> Darkroom" by Lustrum Press. There were two volumes, and each had ten
> renowned photographers discuss their approach and methods in the darkroom.
I
> fell in love with most most of the contributors, but Charles was one of my
> favorites. Since then I've seen a couple of his exhibits. He da man.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
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