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Workflow for Sepia-anyone?

Workflow for Sepia-anyone?

2002-04-07 by memefirechicken

I 'am fairly new to the digital world so please go easy on me with 
the techno. language. I need to print out my images in a light sepia 
tone. I have a PC, Photoshop 6, and an Epson 1280 w/ MIS archival 
inks (reg. color/black, not hextone). I have read work flows from 
Roark and just about everyone else, and cant find anyone working in 
this way. 
I ran into Butch H.(an instuctor of mine) at his opening of his 
gallery show and he told me about this online group. And by the way 
the exhibition was a huge success, his work was flawless, and I 
couldnt belive it when he told me he used 35mm negs. WOW. Absolutley 
unbelivable that you can get that kind of quality(tonal range) and 
size from 35mm/digital prints. 
Right now the paper Im using is Epson matte heavyweight, but I have 
some Tunbridge on the way. I've tryed Duotone in photoshop -yuk, and 
Ive tryed switching to RGB and messing with the color balance, but Im 
not getting good results. I know part of the reason is like Butch 
said I need a program to sync my monitior and printer up, but I just 
havent wanted to give up the money for it since Im a student, and not 
professional. Anyway anyone have any ideas for moderate to light 
sepia tone in my prints? Thanks, Clary

Re: [Digital BW] Workflow for Sepia-anyone?

2002-04-07 by Bill Agee

At 10:14 AM +0000 4/7/02, memefirechicken wrote:
>I 'am fairly new to the digital world so please go easy on me with
>the techno. language. I need to print out my images in a light sepia
>tone. I have a PC, Photoshop 6, and an Epson 1280 w/ MIS archival
>inks (reg. color/black, not hextone). I have read work flows from
>Roark and just about everyone else, and cant find anyone working in
>this way.
>I ran into Butch H.(an instuctor of mine) at his opening of his
>gallery show and he told me about this online group. And by the way
>the exhibition was a huge success, his work was flawless, and I
>couldnt belive it when he told me he used 35mm negs. WOW. Absolutley
>unbelivable that you can get that kind of quality(tonal range) and
>size from 35mm/digital prints.
>Right now the paper Im using is Epson matte heavyweight, but I have
>some Tunbridge on the way. I've tryed Duotone in photoshop -yuk, and
>Ive tryed switching to RGB and messing with the color balance, but Im
>not getting good results. I know part of the reason is like Butch
>said I need a program to sync my monitior and printer up, but I just
>havent wanted to give up the money for it since Im a student, and not
>professional. Anyway anyone have any ideas for moderate to light
>sepia tone in my prints? Thanks, Clary
>


One of the easiest of several ways to do this is to put your image in 
Photoshop in RGB mode,  then make a new layer and name it sepia. Fill 
that layer... the new one which is on top of your image... with the 
color you like.  Set that sepia layer's mode to color (default is 
normal) and lower the opacity until you have what you want.  The 
image will appear when you change the mode to color...that way it is 
not opaque and works only on the dark pixels... and dropping the 
opacity turns down the color intensity.

Another way is to and make an adjustment layer using color balance 
and place it on top of your image layer.  Tweek the midtones using 
magenta and yellow until you have what you want. Be sure to check 
preserve luminosity.  I find that I usually put in about 2x the 
amount of yellow as magenta.  You can either do a little of a lot 
depending on how much color you want to add.



Bill
-- 

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http://www.redsilver.com
http://www.billageestudio.com

Re: Workflow for Sepia-anyone?

2002-04-08 by memefirechicken

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Bill Agee <billagee@r...> 
wrote:
> At 10:14 AM +0000 4/7/02, memefirechicken wrote:
> >I 'am fairly new to the digital world so please go easy on me with
> >the techno. language. I need to print out my images in a light 
sepia
> >tone. I have a PC, Photoshop 6, and an Epson 1280 w/ MIS archival
> >inks (reg. color/black, not hextone). I have read work flows from
> >Roark and just about everyone else, and cant find anyone working in
> >this way.
> >I ran into Butch H.(an instuctor of mine) at his opening of his
> >gallery show and he told me about this online group. And by the way
> >the exhibition was a huge success, his work was flawless, and I
> >couldnt belive it when he told me he used 35mm negs. WOW. 
Absolutley
> >unbelivable that you can get that kind of quality(tonal range) and
> >size from 35mm/digital prints.
> >Right now the paper Im using is Epson matte heavyweight, but I have
> >some Tunbridge on the way. I've tryed Duotone in photoshop -yuk, 
and
> >Ive tryed switching to RGB and messing with the color balance, but 
Im
> >not getting good results. I know part of the reason is like Butch
> >said I need a program to sync my monitior and printer up, but I 
just
> >havent wanted to give up the money for it since Im a student, and 
not
> >professional. Anyway anyone have any ideas for moderate to light
> >sepia tone in my prints? Thanks, Clary
> >
> 
> 
> One of the easiest of several ways to do this is to put your image 
in 
> Photoshop in RGB mode,  then make a new layer and name it sepia. 
Fill 
> that layer... the new one which is on top of your image... with the 
> color you like.  Set that sepia layer's mode to color (default is 
> normal) and lower the opacity until you have what you want.  The 
> image will appear when you change the mode to color...that way it 
is 
> not opaque and works only on the dark pixels... and dropping the 
> opacity turns down the color intensity.
> 
> Another way is to and make an adjustment layer using color balance 
> and place it on top of your image layer.  Tweek the midtones using 
> magenta and yellow until you have what you want. Be sure to check 
> preserve luminosity.  I find that I usually put in about 2x the 
> amount of yellow as magenta.  You can either do a little of a lot 
> depending on how much color you want to add.
> 
> 
> 
> Bill
> -- 
> 
> b i l l  a g e e  s t u d i o
> c a p i s t r a n o  b e a c h  c a l i f o r n i a
> 
> billagee@r...
> http://www.redsilver.com
> http://www.billageestudio.com


Thanks for the help Bill, it worked great. I used your first 
suggestion. Now, do you have a suggestion for a good color,I tryed 
several colors and opacity's from a light creamy skin color, to a 
deep chocolate. My images are close-up's of the body, and I just want 
a hint of color, just to warm it up. I just printed about 6 different 
versions of the color change, but its not where it needs to be yet, 
like I said before my monitor is not synced to my printer, so I'm 
still having a hard time judging the difference. I thought if you 
happen to have some specific color(by that I mean name or 
identifiable by #) that you could let me in on that info too. Thanks 
for your help, Clary

Re: [Digital BW] Workflow for Sepia-anyone?

2002-04-08 by William Cobb

Try converting the image to a QuadTone in PhotoShop and then outputting the PhotoShop 'psd' format QuadTone file using the icc profile for your ink/paper combination. Using the icm color matching in the control panel should do the trick for a basically WYSIWYG output.
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  From: memefirechicken 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 5:14 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Workflow for Sepia-anyone?


  I 'am fairly new to the digital world so please go easy on me with 
  the techno. language. I need to print out my images in a light sepia 
  tone. I have a PC, Photoshop 6, and an Epson 1280 w/ MIS archival 
  inks (reg. color/black, not hextone). I have read work flows from 
  Roark and just about everyone else, and cant find anyone working in 
  this way. 
  I ran into Butch H.(an instuctor of mine) at his opening of his 
  gallery show and he told me about this online group. And by the way 
  the exhibition was a huge success, his work was flawless, and I 
  couldnt belive it when he told me he used 35mm negs. WOW. Absolutley 
  unbelivable that you can get that kind of quality(tonal range) and 
  size from 35mm/digital prints. 
  Right now the paper Im using is Epson matte heavyweight, but I have 
  some Tunbridge on the way. I've tryed Duotone in photoshop -yuk, and 
  Ive tryed switching to RGB and messing with the color balance, but Im 
  not getting good results. I know part of the reason is like Butch 
  said I need a program to sync my monitior and printer up, but I just 
  havent wanted to give up the money for it since Im a student, and not 
  professional. Anyway anyone have any ideas for moderate to light 
  sepia tone in my prints? Thanks, Clary


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Re: [Digital BW] Workflow for Sepia-anyone?

2002-04-08 by stevekphoto

I've been doing sepia with the same inkset on a 1280 as well- The 
doutone isone way, but I've taken to simply adding a curves layer to 
an RGB image, and tweaking the R and B curves until I get the mix I 
want. Doing it this way you can for instance add more red to the 
shadows and more yellow to the highlits for a realy nice split-tone 
that doesn't involve green ( speaking of yukky). I usually have to 
desaturate the mix a little at the end, to make it look like real 
sepia.

Steve Karafyllakis

www.stevekphoto.com

Re: Workflow for Sepia-anyone?

2002-04-08 by garrysarre

Clary

I tried with MIS colour PIGMENTS on an 890 which I believe is 
similar. My solution was simple. On a desaturated RGB file. Adjust 
ALL levels, Highlights, mids and shadows to 30y 20m. It appears 
quite strong, nut prints out less intense. Try 20y 14m if you want 
something more neatral.

I would be interested how you go as I am about to try the hextones 
sepia-neautral with 1280 curves,

Regards

Garry Sarre
www.sarre.com.au

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "memefirechicken" 
<memefirechicken@y...> wrote:
> I 'am fairly new to the digital world so please go easy on me with 
> the techno. language. I need to print out my images in a light 
sepia 
> tone. I have a PC, Photoshop 6, and an Epson 1280 w/ MIS archival 
> inks (reg. color/black, not hextone). I have read work flows from 
> Roark and just about everyone else, and cant find anyone working 
in 
> this way. 
> I ran into Butch H.(an instuctor of mine) at his opening of his 
> gallery show and he told me about this online group. And by the 
way 
> the exhibition was a huge success, his work was flawless, and I 
> couldnt belive it when he told me he used 35mm negs. WOW. 
Absolutley 
> unbelivable that you can get that kind of quality(tonal range) and 
> size from 35mm/digital prints. 
> Right now the paper Im using is Epson matte heavyweight, but I 
have 
> some Tunbridge on the way. I've tryed Duotone in photoshop -yuk, 
and 
> Ive tryed switching to RGB and messing with the color balance, but 
Im 
> not getting good results. I know part of the reason is like Butch 
> said I need a program to sync my monitior and printer up, but I 
just 
> havent wanted to give up the money for it since Im a student, and 
not 
> professional. Anyway anyone have any ideas for moderate to light 
> sepia tone in my prints? Thanks, Clary

Re: Workflow for Sepia-anyone?

2002-04-09 by memefirechicken

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "William Cobb" 
<bcphoto@b...> wrote:
> Try converting the image to a QuadTone in PhotoShop and then 
outputting the PhotoShop 'psd' format QuadTone file using the icc 
profile for your ink/paper combination. Using the icm color matching 
in the control panel should do the trick for a basically WYSIWYG 
output. 
>


I painfully have to admit that I dont understand what you said, 
please bare with me. What is an icc profile, and how do I get one. 
And what is icm color matching. Please explain, Im eager to learn. 
Thank you, Clary
> 
>

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