PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
2002-04-08 by djmay6782
With PMK being highly toxic in dry form, is it less toxic when purchased in a pre-mixed liquid concentrate? Jesse
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PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
2002-04-08 by mkravit
Jesse, No, PMK is not less toxic when in liquid form, it is just less likely to be injested by airborne dust. With the liquid, latex gloves should be worn for safelty. With the powder, a respirator is standard fare. I never touch the powdered form. Mike --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "djmay6782" <djmay@a...> wrote:
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> With PMK being highly toxic in dry form, is it less toxic when > purchased in a pre-mixed liquid concentrate? > > Jesse
Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
2002-04-08 by culturalvisions
I used Pyro PMK for years with 8X10 sheet film and would often shoot two negatives of each image. I would process one in Pyro and one in D-76 or HC110. I could never tell the difference once I contact printed them. I kept using the pyro anyway because I thought that Gordon Hutchins must be right even though I couldn't tell the difference. Just like the emporer's new clothes, Now that I have returned to my old suit of clothes, I feel much more comfortable. I jumped in on this discussion late, but I want to tell folks not to spend the money on such a toxic substance. If you are using 35mm film, the only difference you'll see is that it is grainier. Frank http://www.culturalvisions.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "mkravit" <michael.kravit@w...> wrote: > Jesse, > > No, PMK is not less toxic when in liquid form, it is just less likely > to be injested by airborne dust. > > With the liquid, latex gloves should be worn for safelty. With the > powder, a respirator is standard fare. I never touch the powdered > form. > > Mike > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "djmay6782" <djmay@a...>
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> wrote: > > With PMK being highly toxic in dry form, is it less toxic when > > purchased in a pre-mixed liquid concentrate? > > > > Jesse
Re: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
2002-04-08 by ternahan
Are there any PMK processing labs? t
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> From: "mkravit" <michael.kravit@...> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:13:34 -0000 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths) > > Jesse, > > No, PMK is not less toxic when in liquid form, it is just less likely > to be injested by airborne dust. > > With the liquid, latex gloves should be worn for safelty. With the > powder, a respirator is standard fare. I never touch the powdered > form. > > Mike > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "djmay6782" <djmay@a...> > wrote: >> With PMK being highly toxic in dry form, is it less toxic when >> purchased in a pre-mixed liquid concentrate? >> >> Jesse > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
[Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
2002-04-08 by gulstenek
You can try these people. I ran across the site will looking for more info on pyro so I can't comment on what kind of job they do. http://www.coxblackandwhitelab.com/pyro.htm Kevin Gulstene --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., ternahan <ternahan@s...> wrote:
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> Are there any PMK processing labs? > t > > > From: "mkravit" <michael.kravit@w...> > > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... > > Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:13:34 -0000 > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths) > > > > Jesse, > > > > No, PMK is not less toxic when in liquid form, it is just less likely > > to be injested by airborne dust. > > > > With the liquid, latex gloves should be worn for safelty. With the > > powder, a respirator is standard fare. I never touch the powdered > > form. > > > > Mike > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "djmay6782" <djmay@a...> > > wrote: > >> With PMK being highly toxic in dry form, is it less toxic when > >> purchased in a pre-mixed liquid concentrate? > >> > >> Jesse > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > > resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >
Re: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
2002-04-09 by Martin Wesley
Frank, I have to say that I feel that Pyro development did more to improve my printing than anything I did short of moving to up to 4x5. You couldn't get me to go back to D-76 or HC110 for nothing. D-76 and HC-110 also present heath risks and get NPFA Health ratings of 3 and 2 respectively. This is not to play down the risks of Pyro which is also rated 3 (the scale starts at 0 being the safest). I believe PMK is as cheap or cheaper than either D76 or HC110 on a one shot basis. But the most important thing is to be comfortable with your materials and methods. Someone using their materials well will do a better job than anyone else using the latest quick fix poorly. Martin
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----- Original Message ----- From: "culturalvisions" <fmward@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths) > I used Pyro PMK for years with 8X10 sheet film and would often > shoot two negatives of each image. I would process one in Pyro > and one in D-76 or HC110. I could never tell the difference once > I contact printed them. I kept using the pyro anyway because I > thought that Gordon Hutchins must be right even though I > couldn't tell the difference. Just like the emporer's new clothes, > Now that I have returned to my old suit of clothes, I feel much > more comfortable. > > I jumped in on this discussion late, but I want to tell folks not to > spend the money on such a toxic substance. If you are using > 35mm film, the only difference you'll see is that it is grainier. > > Frank > > http://www.culturalvisions.com > (snip earlier)
Re: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
2002-04-09 by Martin Wesley
Trish, I got bogged down at one point and had some film developed by Ken Templeton in Sacramento. Very nice guy and a quality printer/processor. 916-736-0930 Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "ternahan" <ternahan@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths) > Are there any PMK processing labs? > t > > > From: "mkravit" <michael.kravit@...> > > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:13:34 -0000 > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths) > > > > Jesse, > > > > No, PMK is not less toxic when in liquid form, it is just less likely > > to be injested by airborne dust. > > > > With the liquid, latex gloves should be worn for safelty. With the > > powder, a respirator is standard fare. I never touch the powdered > > form. > > > > Mike > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "djmay6782" <djmay@a...> > > wrote: > >> With PMK being highly toxic in dry form, is it less toxic when > >> purchased in a pre-mixed liquid concentrate? > >> > >> Jesse > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > > resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage.
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths)
2002-04-12 by ternahan
I know Ken...he is a GREAT guy. I just saw his ad in Lenswork. thanks t
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> From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:37:04 -0700 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths) > > Trish, > > I got bogged down at one point and had some film developed by Ken Templeton > in Sacramento. Very nice guy and a quality printer/processor. 916-736-0930 > > Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ternahan" <ternahan@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths) > > >> Are there any PMK processing labs? >> t >> >>> From: "mkravit" <michael.kravit@...> >>> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:13:34 -0000 >>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: PMK Pyro toxicity (7 truths) >>> >>> Jesse, >>> >>> No, PMK is not less toxic when in liquid form, it is just less likely >>> to be injested by airborne dust. >>> >>> With the liquid, latex gloves should be worn for safelty. With the >>> powder, a respirator is standard fare. I never touch the powdered >>> form. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "djmay6782" <djmay@a...> >>> wrote: >>>> With PMK being highly toxic in dry form, is it less toxic when >>>> purchased in a pre-mixed liquid concentrate? >>>> >>>> Jesse >>> >>> >>> >>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other >>> resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: >>> >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >>> >>> Please follow these basic guidelines: >>> - Include your full name with your message. >>> - Include the address of your website, if you have one. >>> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep >>> them short. >>> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject > header. >>> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > "flames." >>> - Complete your Yahoo profile. >>> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various >>> resources on the homepage. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - Include your full name with your message. >> - Include the address of your website, if you have one. >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. >> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." >> - Complete your Yahoo profile. >> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >