Digital BW, The Print

Simplest and easiest is piezography...

If you want to choose between Lyson and MIS...

If you need to be able to do glossies without spraying them after 
printing.. Lyson is the best option...  Have not tried the Luminos 
Monochrome set yet...

If you don't need glossies.. I'd say MIS should be more archival than 
any other option..



[Keith]
 
 




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iwasnvrhere wrote:

> MIS or Luminos if you can't afford Piezography. Luminos has just
> started selling warm and nuetral ink cartridges.
>
Anyone tried the Luminos Monochrome set yet?

In a message dated 4/24/02 1:24:07 PM, frenchpassive@... writes:

>I'm using Lyson quad neutral inks on my 1280 with a continuous 
>flow system with great results. There is no special software 
>required....just convert your image to grey scale and then back to 
>RGB and print as normal after adjusting contrast etc in 
>Photoshop.....perfect results everytime. Needless to say, you 
>have to have your monitor balanced to the printer output 
>(lightness/darkness) to get an exact match.  I use the Knoll 
>gamma software to accomplish this.

As long as you are not using your monitor for anything else, then a closed 
loop process where the monitor is misadjusted to the printer is not 
completerly unreasonable. But for those who wish to work in color as well, or 
surf the web, or print with more than one quad printer, or driver, or inkset, 
or paper, the solution is to hardware calibrate the monitor with a Spyder and 
PhotoCAL, or for real control of the situation, OptiCAL, and then profile the 
quad printing process so that you can preview it accurately on the calibrated 
monitor.

This way instead of misadjusting the monitor in an attempt to match the 
print, you accurately profile both to a universal standard, gaining the 
flexibility of matching any other calibrated device or process with the 
simple change of a profile. Bet that's how Richard Wolfson is doing it! <G>

C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
CDTobie@...

As long as you are not using your monitor for anything else, then 
a closed 
> loop process where the monitor is misadjusted to the printer is 
not 
> completerly unreasonable. But for those who wish to work in 
color as well, or 
> surf the web, or print with more than one quad printer, or driver, 
or inkset, 
> or paper, the solution is to hardware calibrate the monitor 

I only mentioned my method as a way to achieving the desired 
results without having to spend a lot of money on calibration 
devices, profile etc. You can do my way for colour and black and 
white...you just load the monitor profile for the paper/ink 
combination you want. After that you just switch back to your 
regular monitor setting and surf the web all you want with correct 
color.
Just wanted to present an alternative to spending lot's of money 
AND it works. Unfortunately Knoll gamma was discontinued in 
Photoshop with version 4.0, but you might be able to find it on the 
web somewhere. As I metioned before, I have found that the 
profiles from Epson and others are close but never a perfect 
match (even on a properly calibrated monitor....with Knoll, I get a 
perfect match everytime. As they say...if it works, don't fix it!

As long as you are not using your monitor for anything else, then 
a closed 
> loop process where the monitor is misadjusted to the printer is 
not 
> completerly unreasonable. But for those who wish to work in 
color as well, or 
> surf the web, or print with more than one quad printer, or driver, 
or inkset, 
> or paper, the solution is to hardware calibrate the monitor 

I only mentioned my method as a way to achieving the desired 
results without having to spend a lot of money on calibration 
devices, profile etc. You can do my way for colour and black and 
white...you just load the monitor profile for the paper/ink 
combination you want. After that you just switch back to your 
regular monitor setting and surf the web all you want with correct 
color.
Just wanted to present an alternative to spending lot's of money 
AND it works. Unfortunately Knoll gamma was discontinued in 
Photoshop with version 4.0, but you might be able to find it on the 
web somewhere. As I metioned before, I have found that the 
profiles from Epson and others are close but never a perfect 
match (even on a properly calibrated monitor....with Knoll, I get a 
perfect match everytime. As they say...if it works, don't fix it!

Nooo,

ImagePrint  4 is just as easy and simple as Piezography.

Mike


On Wednesday, April 24, 2002, at 12:19 PM, Editor P.O.V. Image Service 
wrote:

> Simplest and easiest is piezography...
>
> If you want to choose between Lyson and MIS...
>
> If you need to be able to do glossies without spraying them after
> printing.. Lyson is the best option...  Have not tried the Luminos
> Monochrome set yet...
>
> If you don't need glossies.. I'd say MIS should be more archival than
> any other option..
>
>
>
> [Keith]
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