Digital BW, The Print

For those of us, who have been Piezographers so far and have 
saved  their images for straight piezo prints  - and now want to 
print  MIS Full Spectrum Inks through the Cone Driver and have 
saved  their images for straight piezo prints ....  (puuuh) .... I have 
worked out  a curve which should bring identicall prints with the 
MIS FS inks - at least on an 1160. 
I calibrated with my eyeballs printing the 21 step image and 
checked it with my print exchange picture, which I printed with 
both inks innert 5 minutes on two 1160s.
(Result: can´t tell the 21 steps prints and the two images apart.)

Specification:
1160 printer, works on EAM and Photo Rag with the Orwell 
profile.

Here is how I do it:
In PS open a file which is saved for Piezo printing
Go:   >Image>adjust>curves

fix the 95 % value

change the following values:
85 > 88
81 > 84
75 > 80
50 > 57
25 > 32
  5 > 7

Save Curve as starting point for later images and fine tuning, 
apply curve, print.

If anybody gives it a try ... let me know how it works.
Bernd

>For those of us, who have been Piezographers so far and have
>saved  their images for straight piezo prints  - and now want to
>print  MIS Full Spectrum Inks through the Cone Driver and have
>saved  their images for straight piezo prints ....  (puuuh) .... I have
>worked out  a curve which should bring identicall prints with the
>MIS FS inks - at least on an 1160.
>I calibrated with my eyeballs printing the 21 step image and
>checked it with my print exchange picture, which I printed with
>both inks innert 5 minutes on two 1160s.
>(Result: can´t tell the 21 steps prints and the two images apart.)

Bernd -

Does this mean that you are successfully using the MIS Full Spectrum inks
to export images through the Piezography BW driver? If so, are you
encountering any problems (nozzle clogging, etc.)? As you know if you've
been following the long exchange here, I am not entirely happy with MIS
Variable Mix but I dislike the very warm tone of the usual Piezo inks.

Thanks for the valuable information.

-- Nick

NICHOLAS HARTMANN                                +1 (414) 271-4890
611 N. Broadway, Suite 509                  fax: +1 (414) 271-4892
Milwaukee, WI 53202, USA                       polyglot@...

Technical and scientific translator:  German and French -> English

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Nicholas Hartmann 
<POLYGLOT@E...> wrote:
> Bernd -

> Does this mean that you are successfully using the MIS Full 
Spectrum inks
> to export images through the Piezography BW driver?

Bingo, read message 860

 If so, are you
> encountering any problems (nozzle clogging, etc.)? 

Not yet.

>As you know if you've
> been following the long exchange here, I am not entirely happy 
with MIS
> Variable Mix but I dislike the very warm tone of the usual Piezo 
inks.

The MIS FS innks are a very little bit cooler than Piezo, but only in 
direct comp.

> -- Nick


Nick, 
my results are not final, but if someone with a densitometer 
would be able to read the continuous tone part of the 21 step 
image we should be able to create a general transfer curve, to 
get absolut identical prints.
My curve is eyeball measured and surely needs some fine 
tuning, f. i. didn´t compare the prints in different lights ... and so 
on.

But in general: Using the Piezo Driver to print MIS FS can be the 
game for those who love piezo, but won´t cope with the Cone 
prices.

Bernd

>The MIS FS innks are a very little bit cooler than Piezo, but only in
>direct comp.

>my results are not final, but if someone with a densitometer
>would be able to read the continuous tone part of the 21 step
>image we should be able to create a general transfer curve, to
>get absolut identical prints.
>My curve is eyeball measured and surely needs some fine
>tuning, f. i. didn´t compare the prints in different lights ... and so
>on.
>
>But in general: Using the Piezo Driver to print MIS FS can be the
>game for those who love piezo, but won´t cope with the Cone
>prices.

Thank you, Bernd; this sounds very promising. I'm disappointed that the MIS
inks are not perceptibly cooler than Piezo, but there's always the tinting
option if they seem otherwise favorable...

-- Nick

NICHOLAS HARTMANN                                +1 (414) 271-4890
611 N. Broadway, Suite 509                  fax: +1 (414) 271-4892
Milwaukee, WI 53202, USA                       polyglot@...

Technical and scientific translator:  German and French -> English

In a message dated 8/23/2001 4:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ruhrfoto@yahoo.de writes:

<< For those of us, who have been Piezographers so far and have 
 saved  their images for straight piezo prints  - and now want to 
 print  MIS Full Spectrum Inks through the Cone Driver and have 
 saved  their images for straight piezo prints ....  (puuuh) .... I have 
 worked out  a curve which should bring identicall prints with the 
 MIS FS inks - at least on an 1160. 
 I calibrated with my eyeballs printing the 21 step image and 
 checked it with my print exchange picture, which I printed with 
 both inks innert 5 minutes on two 1160s.
 (Result: can´t tell the 21 steps prints and the two images apart.)
 
 Specification:
 1160 printer, works on EAM and Photo Rag with the Orwell 
 profile.
 
 Here is how I do it:
 In PS open a file which is saved for Piezo printing
 Go:   >Image>adjust>curves
 
 fix the 95 % value
 
 change the following values:
 85 > 88
 81 > 84
 75 > 80
 50 > 57
 25 > 32
   5 > 7
 
 Save Curve as starting point for later images and fine tuning, 
 apply curve, print.
 
 If anybody gives it a try ... let me know how it works.
 Bernd
 
  >>
I know this is an old post, but I was wondering if anybody gave this method a 
try, and if so, how it worked. I keep seeing the green metamerism with my 
Piezo inks and am considering switching.
Thanks for your input,
George J Kunze

NOTE: I'm cross-posting this on the Epson-Inkjet and
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint lists.

A friend of mine has asked me to put together a show of my work for his
gallery. I print mostly color 8 x 10's on 8 1/2 x 11 paper, though I will
also have some panoramas and monochrome prints, too. I've never had a show
before and am wondering how to go about mounting and framing the pictures
inexpensively but attractively. I would like the framing to be unobtrusive
and neutral, but I don't want to simply mount them on foamcore and hang
them. Any suggestions, or places where I can begin to look for a solution,
appreciated.

Thanks,
David