Digital BW, The Print

Ok, you all know I am a confirmed sceptic.. In fact, some say I built 
Diogenes' bathtub for him... But I am also a fan of a product that does 
one thing well instead of doing 800 things all at compromised levels..

My initial look at the Lyson Small Gamut inks used in a 1280 leaves me 
quite impressed.  I've easily done prints from Sepia to Neutral  to faux 
Cyanotype...  For people like me who had a history of using toners and 
dyes with traditional silver gelatine prints, this inkset is manna from 
heaven..  

Yes it's a dye based inkset, but that doesn't change my initial review. 
 Figures of 25-100 years (minimum) for a print are fine with me.  When 
used in a 1280 this dyeset gives prints clearly equal to the vast 
majority of my old hand toned silver gelatine images; with the added 
advantages of: full impact "toning" even on Glossy/RC media and the 
ability to split-tone or selectively tone at will!!

They also work GREAT with my RGB Quadtone curves.. (Shameless plug)

As for metamerism, yes, there is a tad.  BUT, it is neither displeasing 
nor obvious.  It looks like Lyson did a nice job of ensuring that the 
metameristic qualities of each dye color ends up being complementary -- 
what small difference is exhibited under different light sources is 
easily and generally automatically compensated for by most viewers' 
minds.  The prints look great under tungsten, fluorescent, and daylight..

You will have to wait for my articles' appearances to get a complete 
rundown on all this and see some sample images...  But for now I am elated.

I have the 1270 and MIS VM when I want pigmented prints or can do 
without glossies, and the 1280 with the Lyson Small Gamut for glossies 
and greater expressive range.  Now all I need to do is look at those Gen 
5s and Lyson Fotonics in the Canon S9000... When that is done, I will 
have my digital darkroom complete for the moment. Suffice it to say that 
a "little" research beforehand has gone a LONG way into getting here...

To all those who provided me info, tips, etc., whether directly or 
through your contributions to this list,  along the way, I offer a 
sincere thank-you.  


Keith



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Keith-

Glad to see someone in the boat with me <g>. I know it isn't a 
perfect solution, but it is to my mind, the very best glossy one 
available today.

The ONLY thing that keeps me from using it more is that you have to 
print with the Epson driver which is so slow. I wonder if maybe a 
Canon printer and LSG ink isn't the answer? 

Tom O'Connell

TomOC@...
www.thomasoconnell.com



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Editor P.O.V. Image 
Service" <editor@p...> wrote:
>   Ok, you all know I am a confirmed sceptic.. In fact, some say I 
built 
> Diogenes' bathtub for him... But I am also a fan of a product that 
does 
> one thing well instead of doing 800 things all at compromised 
levels..
> 
> My initial look at the Lyson Small Gamut inks used in a 1280 leaves 
me 
> quite impressed.  I've easily done prints from Sepia to Neutral  to 
faux 
> Cyanotype...  For people like me who had a history of using toners 
and 
> dyes with traditional silver gelatine prints, this inkset is manna 
from 
> heaven..  
> 
> Yes it's a dye based inkset, but that doesn't change my initial 
review. 
>  Figures of 25-100 years (minimum) for a print are fine with me.  
When 
> used in a 1280 this dyeset gives prints clearly equal to the vast 
> majority of my old hand toned silver gelatine images; with the 
added 
> advantages of: full impact "toning" even on Glossy/RC media and the 
> ability to split-tone or selectively tone at will!!
> 
> They also work GREAT with my RGB Quadtone curves.. (Shameless plug)
> 
> As for metamerism, yes, there is a tad.  BUT, it is neither 
displeasing 
> nor obvious.  It looks like Lyson did a nice job of ensuring that 
the 
> metameristic qualities of each dye color ends up being 
complementary -- 
> what small difference is exhibited under different light sources is 
> easily and generally automatically compensated for by most viewers' 
> minds.  The prints look great under tungsten, fluorescent, and 
daylight..
> 
> You will have to wait for my articles' appearances to get a 
complete 
> rundown on all this and see some sample images...  But for now I am 
elated.
> 
> I have the 1270 and MIS VM when I want pigmented prints or can do 
> without glossies, and the 1280 with the Lyson Small Gamut for 
glossies 
> and greater expressive range.  Now all I need to do is look at 
those Gen 
> 5s and Lyson Fotonics in the Canon S9000... When that is done, I 
will 
> have my digital darkroom complete for the moment. Suffice it to say 
that 
> a "little" research beforehand has gone a LONG way into getting 
here...

> 
> To all those who provided me info, tips, etc., whether directly or 
> through your contributions to this list,  along the way, I offer a 
> sincere thank-you.  
> 
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

on 03/05/2002 19:44, Editor P.O.V. Image Service at editor@...
wrote:


You will have to wait for my articles' appearances to get a complete
rundown on all this and see some sample images...  But for now I am elated.

Hello,

When and where can I read your articles, please?

Jean.


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jean.verrept@...






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