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Japanese papers - tips for using

Japanese papers - tips for using

2002-06-05 by antonisphoto

Regarding the comments on using Japanese papers - specifically from Hiromi 
- here are some tips and tricks: 

http://www.hiromipaper.com/

(a) - I would advise getting their sampler book to get a sense of the look and 
feel of these amazing papers - but more importantly to see which ones are 
designated for inkjet (you can also see that on line but without the samples it's 
hard to make a decision).

(b) - The best trick to run them through an Epson without incident is to iron 
them first!  Yup, hot iron just like a shirt. Only need to iron the print side and 
preferably just before you print. No, don't take them to your dry cleaners....

(c) - Align your heads for the + position to stay as far away from the fibers as 
possible.

(d) - Expect to do "preventive" cleanups under the heads between prints even 
if the nozzle checks show clear.

With these techniques, I've been able to print on an 1160 strips of 13" by the 
length of the large sheets (35") without a hitch. I used the SH-4 Harukaze, 
which is a bargain at under $4 a sheet, and is one of the heavier 
"inkjet-compatible" papers. I think I used the Tokinoko profile with the now 
"old" piezo inks. The black looked amazing. Hiromi herself took a look and 
couldn't believe it!  Can't wait to try with the piezoTones.

Worth playing with.

Antonis

Re: Japanese papers - tips for using

2002-06-06 by garrysarre

Antonis.

I tried printing onto a thin (see through)Japanese rice type inkjet 
paper and got such bad results, it went straight in the bin. I don,t 
doubt for a minute that you are achieving a lot better, I just 
wonder how a paper so thin, holds any ink. Mine just faded away to 
nothing in the thin parts of the paper. A bit depressing it was.

Garry Sarre

www.sarre.com.au

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "antonisphoto" 
<antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
> Regarding the comments on using Japanese papers - specifically 
from Hiromi 
> - here are some tips and tricks: 
> 
> http://www.hiromipaper.com/
> 
> (a) - I would advise getting their sampler book to get a sense of 
the look and 
> feel of these amazing papers - but more importantly to see which 
ones are 
> designated for inkjet (you can also see that on line but without 
the samples it's 
> hard to make a decision).
> 
> (b) - The best trick to run them through an Epson without incident 
is to iron 
> them first!  Yup, hot iron just like a shirt. Only need to iron 
the print side and 
> preferably just before you print. No, don't take them to your dry 
cleaners....
> 
> (c) - Align your heads for the + position to stay as far away from 
the fibers as 
> possible.
> 
> (d) - Expect to do "preventive" cleanups under the heads between 
prints even 
> if the nozzle checks show clear.
> 
> With these techniques, I've been able to print on an 1160 strips 
of 13" by the 
> length of the large sheets (35") without a hitch. I used the SH-4 
Harukaze, 
> which is a bargain at under $4 a sheet, and is one of the heavier 
> "inkjet-compatible" papers. I think I used the Tokinoko profile 
with the now 
> "old" piezo inks. The black looked amazing. Hiromi herself took a 
look and 
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> couldn't believe it!  Can't wait to try with the piezoTones.
> 
> Worth playing with.
> 
> Antonis

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Japanese papers - tips for using

2002-06-06 by Robert Morrison

The Gamphi Shi that I'm using is only 30g/m2 and it is just outstanding.  It
doesn't have any loose fibers so ironing isn't necessary.  A little bit of
technique (and Antonis's feeding board) is required to get it to feed
through the desktops...but it sucks right though with the 7000.  The
Tokinoko piezo profile is nearly perfect for this paper.

Robert
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On 6/6/02 9:16 AM, "garrysarre" <garry@...> wrote:

> Antonis.
> 
> I tried printing onto a thin (see through)Japanese rice type inkjet
> paper and got such bad results, it went straight in the bin. I don,t
> doubt for a minute that you are achieving a lot better, I just
> wonder how a paper so thin, holds any ink. Mine just faded away to
> nothing in the thin parts of the paper. A bit depressing it was.
> 
> Garry Sarre
> 
> www.sarre.com.au
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "antonisphoto"
> <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
>> Regarding the comments on using Japanese papers - specifically
> from Hiromi 
>> - here are some tips and tricks:
>> 
>> http://www.hiromipaper.com/
>> 
>> (a) - I would advise getting their sampler book to get a sense of
> the look and 
>> feel of these amazing papers - but more importantly to see which
> ones are 
>> designated for inkjet (you can also see that on line but without
> the samples it's 
>> hard to make a decision).
>> 
>> (b) - The best trick to run them through an Epson without incident
> is to iron 
>> them first!  Yup, hot iron just like a shirt. Only need to iron
> the print side and
>> preferably just before you print. No, don't take them to your dry
> cleaners....
>> 
>> (c) - Align your heads for the + position to stay as far away from
> the fibers as 
>> possible.
>> 
>> (d) - Expect to do "preventive" cleanups under the heads between
> prints even 
>> if the nozzle checks show clear.
>> 
>> With these techniques, I've been able to print on an 1160 strips
> of 13" by the 
>> length of the large sheets (35") without a hitch. I used the SH-4
> Harukaze, 
>> which is a bargain at under $4 a sheet, and is one of the heavier
>> "inkjet-compatible" papers. I think I used the Tokinoko profile
> with the now 
>> "old" piezo inks. The black looked amazing. Hiromi herself took a
> look and 
>> couldn't believe it!  Can't wait to try with the piezoTones.
>> 
>> Worth playing with.
>> 
>> Antonis
> 
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Re: Japanese papers - tips for using

2002-06-07 by grdglass@aol.com

Robert,

Have you tried this paper with inks other than Piezotone?

Helene


<<The Gamphi Shi that I'm using is only 30g/m2 and it is just outstanding.  It

doesn't have any loose fibers so ironing isn't necessary.  A little bit of

technique (and Antonis's feeding board) is required to get it to feed

through the desktops...but it sucks right though with the 7000.  The

Tokinoko piezo profile is nearly perfect for this paper. >>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Japanese papers - tips for using

2002-06-07 by Robert Morrison

Yes, the original book that I printed was with the Conetech PiezoBW inks.  I
don't like it with MIS FS-N inks...too cool...but either a 50/50 FS-N/FS or
all FS mix should be good too...but they will all give a dmax about .1 lower
than the Piezotones.

Robert
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On 6/6/02 5:44 PM, "grdglass@..." <grdglass@...> wrote:

> Robert,
> 
> Have you tried this paper with inks other than Piezotone?
> 
> Helene
> 
> 
> <<The Gamphi Shi that I'm using is only 30g/m2 and it is just outstanding.  It
> 
> doesn't have any loose fibers so ironing isn't necessary.  A little bit of
> 
> technique (and Antonis's feeding board) is required to get it to feed
> 
> through the desktops...but it sucks right though with the 7000.  The
> 
> Tokinoko piezo profile is nearly perfect for this paper. >>
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other
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