Digital BW, The Print

Jerry,

You wrote:

>I use the ECLIPSE SATINE, ...
>(It isn't satin, it's matte watercolor, one side
>textured, one side smooth. ...

>If you get a perfect print on the Epson ARCHIVAL matte, make a levels
>adjustment curve in photo shop and take the middle triangle
>down to 85.  This will darken the image just right for the
>eclipse Satine paper.

Where do you find the best price?  (Inkjetgoodies carries it, but I'm not
sure who else does.)  Also, do you use the "Bright White" or "Soft White"
(no optical brighteners, I think) version?  I'm not sure if they have the
same coatings and print the same.

I found the blacks a little weak with MIS VM/FS K, but for those who insist
on an acid-free, cotton-fiber paper, this one looks like an excellent
choice.  It is the only paper to (barely) beat Epson Archival Matte in my
fade tests.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Paul,

Check out the following site for a good price on Brightcube 
Eclipse Satine, Bright White and Soft White.  

http://www.printworks-usa.com/html/BrightcubeFineArt.html

Jerry


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <
paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >I use the ECLIPSE SATINE, ...
> >(It isn't satin, it's matte watercolor, one side
> >textured, one side smooth. ...
> 
> >If you get a perfect print on the Epson ARCHIVAL matte, make 
a levels
> >adjustment curve in photo shop and take the middle triangle
> >down to 85.  This will darken the image just right for the
> >eclipse Satine paper.
> 
> Where do you find the best price?  (Inkjetgoodies carries it, but 
I'm not
> sure who else does.)  Also, do you use the "Bright White" or 
"Soft White"
> (no optical brighteners, I think) version?  I'm not sure if they 
have the
> same coatings and print the same.
> 
> I found the blacks a little weak with MIS VM/FS K, but for those 
who insist
> on an acid-free, cotton-fiber paper, this one looks like an 
excellent
> choice.  It is the only paper to (barely) beat Epson Archival 
Matte in my

> fade tests.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

> Where do you find the best price?  (Inkjetgoodies carries it, but 
I'm not
> sure who else does.)  

Because of our unique relationship with BrightCube, inkjetgoodies.com 
(photoinkjet.com) will usually have the lowest price...and free 
shipping on orders over $75.

Also, do you use the "Bright White" or "Soft White"
> (no optical brighteners, I think) version?  I'm not sure if they 
have the
> same coatings and print the same.

The Bright White and Soft White have the same coatings, no optical 
brighteners, and are 100% cotton fiber.

Hope this helps.

Gregory Schern
Inkjet Goodies - Photographic and Fine Art Inkjet Supplies
www.inkjetgoodies.com
www.photoinkjet.com
info@...
Order Toll Free 866 330-4514

I believe that the Bright White paper does indded contain optical 
brightners, while Soft White does not.

Can someone confirm? The last time I checked, Bright White glowed 
under black light (UV)

Best wishes.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "gschern" <gschern@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> > Where do you find the best price?  (Inkjetgoodies carries it, but 
> I'm not
> > sure who else does.)  
> 
> Because of our unique relationship with BrightCube, 
inkjetgoodies.com 

> (photoinkjet.com) will usually have the lowest price...and free 
> shipping on orders over $75.
> 
> Also, do you use the "Bright White" or "Soft White"
> > (no optical brighteners, I think) version?  I'm not sure if they 
> have the
> > same coatings and print the same.
> 
> The Bright White and Soft White have the same coatings, no optical 
> brighteners, and are 100% cotton fiber.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Gregory Schern
> Inkjet Goodies - Photographic and Fine Art Inkjet Supplies
> www.inkjetgoodies.com
> www.photoinkjet.com
> info@i...
> Order Toll Free 866 330-4514

A member has already mentioned this source of Brightcube papers; their 
prices are much lower than those at inkjetgoodies, even with the 
competition's free shipping factored in. I'm a customer for 
Brightcube's Semi-matte 13x19 in boxes of 25 (apparently hand-packed 
in plain white, simply labelled boxes: c.$80 at inkjetgoodies, c.$60 
here.

http://www.printworks-usa.com/html/BrightcubeFineArt.html

Bob Bollini

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >I use the ECLIPSE SATINE, ...
> >(It isn't satin, it's matte watercolor, one side
> >textured, one side smooth. ...
> 
> >If you get a perfect print on the Epson ARCHIVAL matte, make a 
levels
> >adjustment curve in photo shop and take the middle triangle
> >down to 85.  This will darken the image just right for the
> >eclipse Satine paper.
> 
> Where do you find the best price?  (Inkjetgoodies carries it, but 
I'm not
> sure who else does.)  Also, do you use the "Bright White" or "Soft 
White"
> (no optical brighteners, I think) version?  I'm not sure if they 
have the
> same coatings and print the same.
> 
> I found the blacks a little weak with MIS VM/FS K, but for those who 
insist
> on an acid-free, cotton-fiber paper, this one looks like an 
excellent
> choice.  It is the only paper to (barely) beat Epson Archival Matte 
in my

> fade tests.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

on 6/19/02 12:13 PM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com at
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:43:34 -0500
> From: Jerry Olson <jerryolson@...>
> Subject: Re: Eclipse Satine -- for Jerry
> 
> I've asked this before, but have not received an answer. Has ANYBODY on
> this list seen an actual piece of paper from the "Endurance Matte" paper
> that replaced Archival matte?  I'm still wondering if the water mark is
> there. 
> 
> Except for the Hahnemuhle papers, there is no paper that gives a deeper
> black than the Epson Archival matte. But I cannot use it with the
> watermark.  Anyone used either the letter, 11x17, or 13x19 inch
> "Endurance"?  Also, epson's 11x17 paper is short of 17 inches by about
> an eighth of an inch, so you can't cut it evenly in two to get letter
> size paper. 
> 
> Jerry

I just opened a package of 13x19in enhanced matte 100 sheets that I received
a few weeks ago from atlex.  There is no watermark on the back side.
 
-Bruce

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