Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sundance/Cone Inks, and other issues: IP4
2002-06-28 by Martin Wesley
Bernd, With the Piezo driver and the PiezoTone inks I got a very good wedge using EAM that was a match for earlier ones with the original Piezo inks. On Photo Rag the wedge had some minor non-linearity in the ramp that were different than what I had seen using the same driver with MIS-FS. This was mild and I have gotten good prints with workflows that had worse ramps. Since the PiezoTones are offered for use with the Piezo driver I assume they are trying to density match the new inks to the old and if ImagePrint 4 works with one ink set it will work with the other. The only problem is that the chemistry of the old new inks are apparently different since ConeTech cautions against mixing them. This will most likely lead to slightly different responses on some papers requiring changes to some profiles. However, if you want to give the PiezoTones a try I think you will be able to get good prints. Regarding clogging. I think that we can say that the PiezoTones are an improvement over the original Piezo inks based on use so far. I don't think we will know how they compare to MIS inks for several months. I had zero clogs with MIS-VM for several months and as time has gone on I am experiencing light (clears up with 1 to 4 nozzle cleaning cycles) clogging occasionally and at random. The Piezotones were completely clog free initially but after a few weeks I have experienced some episodes of light clogging. But I get some clogging with Epson inks in my 1270 too, so I have to say the MIS-VM and the PiezoTones seem to fall within the normal range that you would expect with an inkjet printer. My only experience with MIS-FS is in cartridges and I did experience mild clogging problems much more frequently than with MIS-VM but I had attributed that to the use of hand loaded cartridges compared to the CIS I used for VM. So I think that it is very uncertain as to whether the PiezoTone is likely to be more clog free than MIS for you. Only time will tell but you need to make a near term decision. I am very sorry to hear about your problems with the 7500 and also surprised. I think this is the first report of a major clog failure with the MIS-FS. If anyone else has had similar experiences with MIS-FS please let us know. Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
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----- Original Message ----- From: "ruhrfoto" <ruhrfoto@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 8:20 AM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Sundance/Cone Inks, and other issues: IP4 --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@e...> wrote: > Since ConeTech is using the same software with the PiezoTones as the > original inks, I would assume that the R9 plug-in would deliver the same > result with the PiezoTones as the Piezo plug-in. Martin: If this is true it should be true for the IP4 RIP too. Did anybody print the new Piezotones with the IP4 RIP (which supports PiezoBW and MIS FS inks so far) ?? To tell the background of my question: I had serious cloggig problems with MIS FS inks on my 7500 printer. Cloggs from hell, which I couldn\ufffdt get rid of. whatever tricky tricks I attempted. Finally I got the print heads changed . Now - after receiving the bill for the exchange - I was afraid to re-install the MIS FS inks and I ordered the new Piezotones (they will never clog, eh?). Shall I give them a triy with the IP4 RIP - or shall I wait until the colorbyte guys have finished their Piezotone upgrading (they seem to be very busy with it - at least they did not answer my e-mails during the last days). Bernd Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/