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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Fw: [piezoBW] PiezoTone News

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Fw: [piezoBW] PiezoTone News

2002-08-29 by Julian Thomas

well at least IJM are reformulating before people's printers started dying.
The original sundance inks cost me a fortune in printers just when I was
printing orders after an exhibition - I'll never trust sundance after that.
12 months working on the exhibit, cost of framing and printing mainly
wasted. For those of us who remember the way IJM dealt with these issues the
new approach is much better. Martin's comment on why sundance are still
shipping the original inks, for me, has nothing to do with customers but
economics. I wonder if their 'support' will cover damage.

Julian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "pixikon" <pixikon@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Fw: [piezoBW] PiezoTone News


You're right, those are certainly impressive words

and we should remember that there usually 2 sides to every story.

Sandy


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas"
<julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> I am VERY impressed with how quickly IJM is now able to adapt to
changes.
> One of the problems for me before was that they were stuck with the
sundance
> inks... from the Piezo list...
>
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Cone" <piezobw@c...>
> To: <piezography3000@y...>
> Cc: <piezobwpro@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:49 PM
> Subject: [piezoBW] PiezoTone News
>
>
>
> PiezoTone News
>
>
>
> Dear Piezographers,
>
> Thank you for your enthusiasm for our new PiezoTone inks! Really,
you have
> yourselves to thank because they are a result of our commitment to
your
> satisfaction. We work tirelessly to create the \ufffdperfect ink\ufffd
and
your
> feedback and comments play a huge part in attaining that goal.
>
> We were unable to influence the manufacturer (Sundance) of the
original
> PiezoBW ink to make formula changes for the better so we made our
own. We
> are making great strides now that we have control over the
manufacturing
> process and a team of ink chemists on our side. We are producing
the inks in
> small batches in order to respond quickly to correct or adjust the
formulas
> as the inks gain widespread use after considerable alpha and beta
testing.
>
> As a small, artful, ink developer and manufacturer we are able to
respond
> quickly to problems and customer needs as well as devise and
implement
> creative solutions for our industry.
>
> We continue to appreciate your patronage and welcome your comments!
>
>
>
> Testing Lab \ufffd How it is Equipped and Guidelines for Effective
Feedback
>
> Cone Editions built and shares with Inkjetmall a state-of-the-art
testing
> lab. We have an EPSON 7500, 3 EPSON 7000, 1 EPSON 9000, 15 EPSON
860, 6
> EPSON 1160, 6 EPSON 1200, 4 EPSON 1280, 7 EPSON 3000. All of which
are
> dedicated to ink testing. We have tons of other EPSONs which are
used for
> other purposes. We are armed and we are dangerous! This is an
awesome
> testing facility. So when a problem arises we are able to mobilize
a small
> army of printers to test both cartridge and CIS form and with 4
inks... Not
> a quick check!
>
> Please understand that not every issue that comes up is related to
the inks.
> Often it is a singular hardware issue, or a pattern of hardware
issues in
> multiple printers. It is difficult for us to ascertain if it is
exactly ink
> specific, or if changing a formula, or a component of the delivery
system,
> is necessary to make it compatible in a greater number of printers
which are
> at a lower standard than other printers. Or if it is simply broke!
But that
> is our job and we are on it 24/7. It is in our best interest (yours
and
> ours) that we investigate all issues, so please do not reserve
comments if
> you see a pattern affecting others that you are also experiencing.
The other
> side of that coin is for you to exhaust technical and maintenance
issues
> before pronouncing cause and effect relationships. Avoid having us
spend
> time on things that mysteriously clear up or go away. Keep us
chasing only
> legitimate issues, and we will evolve these inks continuously.
>
>
>
> PiezoTone Selenium Tone Reports of Bluish Cast
>
> PROBLEM: A bluish cast being printed in the highlights using
Selenium inks.
> We were not seeing these results in our lab, but the prints sent in
by users
> confirmed that it was happening to more than one. It seems to be
related
> mostly to the 1280 cartridge.
>
> ACTION: We sent a quantity of each cartridge pre-filled to our ink
chemists
> who performed scientific analysis to determine if there was anything
> physical happening within the cartridges themselves that might be
affecting
> the inks.
>
> No problems with the Selenium 1160 & 860 cartridges. Some of the
cartridges
> for the 1200 have a slight separation of the two different color
pigments
> inside and outside of the sponge. The bluish pigment is coming more
inside
> the sponge and hence some printed bluish effect. But the 1280
cartridges
> have serious problems and are absorbing much of the carbon while
releasing
> much of the color pigments. This, of course, is unacceptable.
>
> Because cartridges are purchased by ink filling houses by the tons
and are
> often different each time they are ordered, we do not have control
over this
> issue. We can have the chemists increase the dispersion stability
or we can
> change the sponge material. Changing the dispersion stability may
not affect
> all known cartridge designs and sponge materials. So we have
decided to have
> our own cartridge manufactured with a sponge material that is
appropriate to
> carbon pigment inks. Additionally, we will assure that the
breathing holes
> are always of the right size and shape. The vacuum and breathing of
a
> cartridge is often the single most reason for banding in a printer.
>
> We will also change the dispersion stability of the formula because,
> although we do not advise customers to do their own cartridge
refilling, we
> know that some will always choose to buy the bulk bottles and fill
their
> own, or use CIS systems which might use a variety of cartridge
designs.
> Because there is no way to guarantee the stability and manufacture
of empty
> virgin cartridges made by everyone in the world, we will do what we
can to
> safeguard our customers who choose to make their own pre-filled
cartridges
> or run varying CIS systems. We will also supply our CIS
manufacturers with
> these special cartridges so that they can make products more
adaptable to a
> pure pigment ink industry. We vow not to pass on the costs of this
> manufacture to our end users, and we believe that we will still be
able to
> lower our ink costs when we go to large production runs! (read my
lips! no
> new taxes!)
>
> We plan to implement a replacement program for the 1200 and 1280
cartridges,
> whether the end-user is affected or not so that we can assure
consistency in
> the product. We will send these out as soon as available in late
September.
> If you like the bluish effect, you might stock up, but these would
be inks
> without the fade resistance and longevity that we intended, so hold
off if
> that is an important quality.
>
>
>
> PiezoTone Carbon Sepia
>
> Carbon is a pigment which is a very dark brown color. Carbon black
is not
> very dark. It is also a pigment which is difficult to manufacture
into an
> ink on its own. Most manufacturers need to incorporate other
dyestuff or
> pigments to aid in dispersion and suspension. We have found a way
to produce
> a carbon\ufffdonly ink by careful shaping and filtering which
produces the
> PiezoTone Carbon Sepia inks. They do not have any additional
dyestuff or
> pigments for color. The result is an ink with the highest stability
and
> longevity possible. This was our goal when we decided to replace
the strong
> co-solvents normally associated with inkjet inks with a much more
inert
> solution. Stability is also affected by the solvent which the
pigment is
> dispersed in.
>
> The Carbon Sepia PiezoTones are printing very beautifully on
different
> papers, ranging from the platinum palladium look to the look of
sepia. We
> are going to have to publish a color chart for this ink in regards
to paper.
> It is that complex! We are, perhaps, the most excited about this
ink in
> terms of its longevity potential and its ability to imitate such a
wide
> variety of tones. This ink will be released only in the new
cartridge
> design. Release date is now late September (better safe than sorry).
>
>
>
> PiezoTone Cool Neutral
>
> Now that we are redesigning cartridges, PiezoTone Cool Neutral is
going back
> to the chemists for a color change. After recently reviewing the
color of
> other cool monochromatic inks we have decided that these other inks
are
> arguably too cool for our tastes and we are going to have a bit
better
> separation from similar products by being more neutral on the cool
side,
> rather than being cool blue on the neutral side. We are convinced
that
> looking photographic is essential. These new inks will also be
released late
> September and only in the new cartridge designs.
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Jon Cone
> Piezography Brand Inks and Software
>
>
>
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