Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Thread

Re: [Digital BW] "Cyanotypes"

Re: [Digital BW] "Cyanotypes"

2002-09-03 by jeffm@gis.net

Bill Morse wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had any success reproducing the look of old cyanotypes?
> 
> If I were to try to mix up an ink-set, how would I go about it?  What
> workflow would be most appropriate?
> 
> Ideally, I'd like to use a variation of the VM inks and curves.
> 
> Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> Bill Morse
> PhotoProspect
> Cambridge, MA 02139

Bill.... Funny you should ask that !
Try the New Cone Selenium Tone inks in the 1280 carts! Unfortunately for
me that is what my prints look like from both the first and replacements
carts.  :( :( Light Cyanotypes....  Supposedly Cone and Company are
developing a fix and once again I have become an unwilling beta tester.

-Jeff

Re: [Digital BW] "Cyanotypes"

2002-09-03 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service

Bill Morse wrote:

 >Has anyone had any success reproducing the look of old cyanotypes?
 >
 >If I were to try to mix up an ink-set, how would I go about it?  What
 >workflow would be most appropriate?
 >
 >
 >
 >
The Lyson Small Gamuts work for me in this regard...

However, it depends how saturated you want the blues...

I've easily reproduced the images at:

http://www.p-o-v-image.com/images/memoriam/Liberty&Ellis_Roll2_23_duo.jpg

http://www.p-o-v-image.com/images/memoriam/Liberty&Ellis_Roll3_18_duo.jpg

without any problem...  (of course, they were printed at a higher
resolution then they are displayed at)

If you want/need to go with pigment inks.. I'd say the MIS Perpetuals
could probably get you close (if not be able to do the trick)..  If not,
you might want toe talk to Bob Zeiss at MIS about coming up with a
custom quad or hex set that would give you extended tonalities in the
blues/cyans...  However, most of the actual cyanotypes I've seen in
person had a very short tonal range and high contrast in comparison to
standard gelatine silver prints..

IMHO -- The question  really becomes do you want to reproduce the look
of cyanotypes (with the reduced tonal range) or simply utilize the  hue
of the cyanotypes (while keeping to a more gelatine-silver like tonal
range)?   If just the former, it is more likely the Perpetuals, as sold,
could do the job.  If the latter, I would recommend the Lyson SG, or
talking to Bob (if you need a pigment based set)..  Keep in mind, also,
that in a hexset you already have a cyan AND light cyan position,
allowing smoother tonal transitioning in that Blue/Cyan range, so it's
an easier nut to crack than if you wanted, say, Orange toned prints with
the same tonal range and smoothness of tonal transitions...

Keith




</div>

Re: [Digital BW] "Cyanotypes"

2002-09-03 by Bill Morse

Ouch!!

on 9/2/02 11:28 PM, jeffm@... wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> 
> Bill.... Funny you should ask that !
> Try the New Cone Selenium Tone inks in the 1280 carts! Unfortunately for
> me that is what my prints look like from both the first and replacements
> carts.  :( :( Light Cyanotypes....  Supposedly Cone and Company are
> developing a fix and once again I have become an unwilling beta tester.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other
> resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> 
> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same
> page.
> 
> Please follow these basic guidelines:
> - Include your full name with your message.
> - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
> them short.
> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header.
> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or
> &amp;amp;quot;flames.&amp;amp;quot;
> - Complete your Yahoo profile.
> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various
> resources on the homepage.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
>

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.