Digital BW, The Print

I would like to thank Paul, Martin, Antonis and the rest for all
their 
hard work testing all the inks and especially for sharing the 
knowledge.  Without your efforts we would have continued to 
believe the false advertising claims of some of our suppliers.  
These self proclaimed geniuses need to make good.  I am in the 
process of recalling close to 30 framed prints, before they are 
returned to me.  Its rather an embarrassing process as I 
assured my clients the prints were archival, at least beyond that 
of a C print.  I was under the impression they would last 75-100 
years.  To call them and tell them that their pictures are going to 
turn red within months is completely unacceptable to me, and a 
major setback for my clients to accept the digital process.  I have 
to say that I was also very disappointed when told that the 
Piezotones would work perfectly with the Piezo software only to 
find that they did not.  Then to find out the reason that the new 
inks were not profiled was because the "inventor" did not have 
the technology to profile his own inks.  

What to do now?  It seems that I will either switch back to the 
Sundance inks, go for the MIS FS-N, or switch to MIS FS-N black 
with the Piezotone inks.  My question is will the MIS inks give me 
the smooth grayscale that the Sundance inks did with the R9 
driver?  Is this Piezo/MIS combo plug and play with the R9 driver?  
Should I switch to MIS FS-N for all the inks and is that plug and 
play with the R9 driver? 

I've seen enough amazing digital prints to stick with it and with 
forums like this sharing knowledge its just a matter of time for 
this technology to mature and be embraced.  Thanks again to all 
for your honesty and hard work keeping us informed and 
exposing poor products.

Durst and Sneider still in storage!

-Michael

Www.michaelfaye.com
Www.collectiblegolf.com

Michael-

One thing we have to keep in mind with digital printing is that it is 
still a pretty new technology...I really learned the hard way with 
PCs that being a beta tester isn't really much more than being a 
guinea pig...I had to rebuild my system more times than I care to 
think about...all because I was crazy enough to install some new 
piece of software on a production system.

You're doing the right thing by getting proactive and going back to a 
more proven state of the art (pun intended)...and you'll probably be 
a bit gun-shy about trying new stuff for a while <g>...who wouldn't 
be.

Glad to see you're not wheeling out the chemicals...that would be 
going back waaaay to far, IMHO, but I'm sure some have gone that 
route. It sounds like the only issue in the quality of your printing 
(and from looking at your images on your website, I can see you make 
wonderful images) is permanence...and aside from a few glitches 
(Epson orange shift, some PiezoBW green cast and now this)most of 
what we have done is working quite well.

I guess the bottom line is, we all need to upgrade, but not the first 
week...

Sorry to hear your troubles...glad to hear someone so skilled as you 
is sticking with digital.

Cheers,

Tom O'Connell



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "mfp90021" <mfp90021@y...> 
wrote:

> 
> I would like to thank Paul, Martin, Antonis and the rest for all
> their 
> hard work testing all the inks and especially for sharing the 
> knowledge.  Without your efforts we would have continued to 
> believe the false advertising claims of some of our suppliers.  
> These self proclaimed geniuses need to make good.  I am in the 
> process of recalling close to 30 framed prints, before they are 
> returned to me.  Its rather an embarrassing process as I 
> assured my clients the prints were archival, at least beyond that 
> of a C print.  I was under the impression they would last 75-100 
> years.  To call them and tell them that their pictures are going to 
> turn red within months is completely unacceptable to me, and a 
> major setback for my clients to accept the digital process.  I have 
> to say that I was also very disappointed when told that the 
> Piezotones would work perfectly with the Piezo software only to 
> find that they did not.  Then to find out the reason that the new 
> inks were not profiled was because the "inventor" did not have 
> the technology to profile his own inks.  
> 
> What to do now?  It seems that I will either switch back to the 
> Sundance inks, go for the MIS FS-N, or switch to MIS FS-N black 
> with the Piezotone inks.  My question is will the MIS inks give me 
> the smooth grayscale that the Sundance inks did with the R9 
> driver?  Is this Piezo/MIS combo plug and play with the R9 driver?  
> Should I switch to MIS FS-N for all the inks and is that plug and 
> play with the R9 driver? 
> 
> I've seen enough amazing digital prints to stick with it and with 
> forums like this sharing knowledge its just a matter of time for 
> this technology to mature and be embraced.  Thanks again to all 
> for your honesty and hard work keeping us informed and 
> exposing poor products.
> 
> Durst and Sneider still in storage!
> 
> -Michael
> 
> Www.michaelfaye.com
> Www.collectiblegolf.com