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Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?

Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?

2002-09-18 by flyfishingusa2002

Hi All,
Is there anyone using the Epson 2200 or the 2100 for B/W yet?
If so what is your opinion? 
Does the Grey Balance adjsutment affect the normal color printing?
Practical answers only please.

Barry

RE: [Digital BW] Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?

2002-09-18 by Shire,Stanley

Barry:
You must have missed the outstanding series of 1,357 messages (and
Andrew's 892 replies) re: the decision by Epson to not include the gray
balancer with the 2200. Only non US citizens get that one. 
I will be printing rgb and gs with my 2200 when it arrives on Friday
(hopefully) and will report at length about it and IP5.
More later.
S.
 
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
 
215 751-8320
sshire@...
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:58 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?
 
Hi All,
Is there anyone using the Epson 2200 or the 2100 for B/W yet?
If so what is your opinion? 
Does the Grey Balance adjsutment affect the normal color printing?
Practical answers only please.

Barry





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Re: Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?

2002-09-18 by Antonis Ricos

Barry,

I've only used it with EAM/Matte black and set the driver to No color 
adjustment. Apparently, that's a big mistake for BW. Needs to be set to Photo 
Realistic. More info on luminous landscape and dpreview (for links and 
discussion see recent messages in the archivalcolor list).

Expect one set of settings for color and another for bw printing (where gamut 
limiting by the driver is a plus).

The only caveat from preliminary tests is that favorite papers like PhotoRag 
only hit 1.63 dmax and other art papers like Museo showed a lot of surface 
sheen where deep blacks hit. EAM is still 1.73 - as we know.

Antonis

And, BTW, if your French is good, it's easy to download the Gray  Balancer 
from Epson France. Worth a look. I haven't tested it yet.






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "flyfishingusa2002" <tflyfish@c...> 
wrote:
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> Hi All,
> Is there anyone using the Epson 2200 or the 2100 for B/W yet?
> If so what is your opinion? 
> Does the Grey Balance adjsutment affect the normal color printing?
> Practical answers only please.
> 
> Barry

RE: [Digital BW] Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?

2002-09-18 by david_bookbinder@sprynet.com

You can download the French version of the gray balancer, as 
well as a patch to convert it to English. I believe the URL for 
a page explaining how to do both is at www.forst.net/2200.

- David

= = = Original message = = =

Barry:
You must have missed the outstanding series of 1,357 messages 
(and
Andrew's 892 replies) re: the decision by Epson to not include 
the gray
balancer with the 2200. Only non US citizens get that one. 
I will be printing rgb and gs with my 2200 when it arrives on 
Friday
(hopefully) and will report at length about it and IP5.
More later.
S.
 
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
 
215 751-8320
sshire@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: flyfishingusa2002 [mailto:tflyfish@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:58 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?
 
Hi All,
Is there anyone using the Epson 2200 or the 2100 for B/W yet?
If so what is your opinion? 
Does the Grey Balance adjsutment affect the normal color printing?
Practical answers only please.

Barry





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Re: Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?

2002-09-18 by culturalvisions

The Gray Balancer can be downloaded from Epson France and 
the English explaination is on photo i in the UK.  Sorry I don't 
have either link on this computer.  Adjusting the Gray Balancer 
for improved b/w printing is supposed to be condusive to better 
color printing also.

The best b/w workflow seems to be on 
http://www.luminous-landscape.com

Check recent archives on this list for lots of details and links.  
And there is a whole group dedicated to the 2200 and 2000P 
right here in Yahoo.

My viewing of 2200 b/w suggests that third party systems like 
Cone's are still a tad better, but the 2200's b/w looks very good.

Frank

http://www.culturalvisions.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "flyfishingusa2002" 
<tflyfish@c...> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Is there anyone using the Epson 2200 or the 2100 for B/W yet?
> If so what is your opinion? 
> Does the Grey Balance adjsutment affect the normal color 
printing?
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Practical answers only please.
> 
> Barry

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Anyone using Epson 2200 for B/W?

2002-09-19 by Tim Atherton

> And, BTW, if your French is good, it's easy to download the Gray
> Balancer
> from Epson France. Worth a look. I haven't tested it yet.

You can also download a patch to put it in English... was on here a few days
ago

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