Digital BW, The Print

----- Original Message -----
From: " Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." <ruhrfoto@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:35 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Sound of Silence, was: New PiezoTone blacks, 4 Martin


Martin,
I want to make absolute clear, that I didn\ufffdt want to criticize the fact
that you forwarded Jon\ufffds statement. That is actually what I would
have done too if I had been in your situation, no doubt.
What I wanted to criticize is the fact, that Jon hasn\ufffdt answered the
concerns, which have been posted on this list and on the piezo
list about the fading problem of his new black ink himself.
These are serious concerns, and all we have heard from him - at
least so far - has been the sound of silence.
If I wasn\ufffdt able to express this clearly enough in my post, and you
felt personally offended  - even to a small amount -, I apologize.
Please blame my clumsy English again and be sure that I\ufffdm
proud to regard you as a personal friend of mine. Not that I
regard it as prohibited to criticize a friend, but I would have done
it offline if I had have a reason, that is for sure.
But I have had no reason!
Your work as list moderator is just perfect (to say the least).
As always
Bernd






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley"
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> Bernd,
>
> Well, I just wanted to pass on what Jon had to say since I
thought a lot of
> the members would be interested and people have been
speculating if he would
> provide a new black ink and when. I am willing to try his
products on a case
> by case basis, use the ones I like and pass on those that don't
meet my
> criteria. I haven't been shy with my opinions in the past, good or
bad, but
> until I actually get to try the new stuff, I will reserve judgment.
>
> It is certainly not news that he has aggravated a large number
of people. I
> understand your feeling but I guess I have reached the point
where if the
> product works for me I will use it and not worry about who
actually did
> what. I can't figure it all out and the whole thing seems like a
soap opera
> at times. I guess this is one of the purposes of the list, to sort
out the
> good products and ignore the marketing.
>
> I would keep pushing on getting some satisfaction out of
InkJetMall on your
> ink issue.
>
> Martin Wesley
>
> http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: " Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." <ruhrfoto@y...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:25 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: New PiezoTone blacks
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley"
> <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley"
> <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
>
>
>
> >  I e-mailed Jon Cone ...
> .
> >  Jon responded ...
> .
> >  Jon says ...
> .
> >  Jon feels ...
> .
> >  Jon will make ...
>
>
> Sorry, Martin, with all respect;
> this is all bullsh... as long as he doesn\ufffdt  address this issue in
> publicity and guarantees a full money refund for all sold new
> PiezoTone black ink or for the whole ink-set if desired.
> I asked him for a credit note today because I\ufffdm not willing to
> accept a replacement ink, which I can buy at MIS much
cheaper
> namely for 16$ an ounce instead of 44$ at inkjetmall.
> Jon is rapidly loosing my admiration, because I begin to
realize,
> that he isn\ufffdt the great developer of ink and software he
> suggested to be, but seems to be a great rebrander.
> Bernd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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