Digital BW, The Print

Can I use Randall curves MIS-FS / 1160 curves for the following
configuration?
MIS FS-K Black + Selenium PiezoTones / 1160.
How close are MIS gray densities to Selenium PiezoTones?
What is the method/procedure in tweaking the curves?

Thanks in advance,
Loris.

----- Original Message -----

From: "meshugena313" <meshugena313@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:36 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 740 MIS FS Curve Posted


> I modified the Randall curve for the 1160 to produce a decent print
> on the Epson 740 using the MIS Full Spectrum inks.  Others may wish
> ...

When I was messing around with this - before I started digging into the
curves themselves - I printed off a stepwedge using the Randall curves and
then simply made and saved a curve to bring the values up to the wedge I was
getting from the Piezo plugin. Being a piezo pluggin addict I was amazed at
how close this can get. Use Tyler's Zs if you want a real test - in the
files section.

Julian

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loris Medici" <loris.medici@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 740 MIS FS Curve Posted


>
> Can I use Randall curves MIS-FS / 1160 curves for the following
> configuration?
> MIS FS-K Black + Selenium PiezoTones / 1160.
> How close are MIS gray densities to Selenium PiezoTones?
> What is the method/procedure in tweaking the curves?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Loris.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "meshugena313" <meshugena313@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:36 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 740 MIS FS Curve Posted
>
>
> > I modified the Randall curve for the 1160 to produce a decent print
> > on the Epson 740 using the MIS Full Spectrum inks.  Others may wish
> > ...
>
>
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Thanks Julian,

I don't like the Piezo plug-in for the moment (although I will seriously
struggle to get it work/learn it); I got serious banding and flat prints
with it. The prints I made with Woolf workflow / Epson driver are
banding-free but observing ink levels I noticed that it uses too much black
so I'm looking for an alternative.

Regards,
Loris.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 740 MIS FS Curve Posted


> When I was messing around with this - before I started digging into the
> curves themselves - I printed off a stepwedge using the Randall curves and
> then simply made and saved a curve to bring the values up to the wedge I
was
> getting from the Piezo plugin. Being a piezo pluggin addict I was amazed
at

> how close this can get. Use Tyler's Zs if you want a real test - in the
> files section.
>
> Julian
>
> Julian

I've been very happy with piezo until I changed the heads on one 1160 - not
it, and a new 1160 band like crazy. I use three papers EAM for proofing, PR
for portfolio/exhibition and sales, WR for sales and exhibitions
Good luck!
Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loris Medici" <loris.medici@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 740 MIS FS Curve Posted


>
> Thanks Julian,
>
> I don't like the Piezo plug-in for the moment (although I will seriously
> struggle to get it work/learn it); I got serious banding and flat prints
> with it. The prints I made with Woolf workflow / Epson driver are
> banding-free but observing ink levels I noticed that it uses too much
black
> so I'm looking for an alternative.
>
> Regards,
> Loris.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 740 MIS FS Curve Posted
>
>
> > When I was messing around with this - before I started digging into the
> > curves themselves - I printed off a stepwedge using the Randall curves
and
> > then simply made and saved a curve to bring the values up to the wedge I
> was
> > getting from the Piezo plugin. Being a piezo pluggin addict I was amazed
> at
> > how close this can get. Use Tyler's Zs if you want a real test - in the
> > files section.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > Julian
>
>
>
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