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book or album???

2002-10-09 by Jim Panzer

I am going to try and make a book, or album type thing for my
parents.  I was going to see if anyone had any information on this?  I was
looking for info on-line but couldn't find any.  I was thinking if I can't
find a way to make a book with my digital prints maybe I could just put them
in some sort of nice looking binder, not sure if something like that exists
though.  Any help would be great, thanks!

Jim P

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Re: [Digital BW] book or album???

2002-10-09 by Craig Sterling

Jim,

I saw something recently regarding a book title ... I think?  Digital Book
Design or Making Digital Books...something like that.

Very nice book on how to go about making a digital book...from materials to
design and layout.

If you don't have any luck, get back to me off list and I will introduce you
to the fellow that told me about digital bookmaking.  I am sure he knows the
title and where to obtain a copy.

Regards...Craig
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> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:27:54 -0700
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> Subject: [Digital BW] book or album???
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> I am going to try and make a book, or album type thing for my
> parents.  I was going to see if anyone had any information on this?  I was
> looking for info on-line but couldn't find any.  I was thinking if I can't
> find a way to make a book with my digital prints maybe I could just put them
> in some sort of nice looking binder, not sure if something like that exists
> though.  Any help would be great, thanks!
> 
> Jim P
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Re: [Digital BW] book or album???

2002-10-09 by Paulo Baptista

Stephen Johnson (www.sjphoto.com) has published a book called, yes, "Making 
a Digital Book", about the production of another book by himself and fellow 
photographer Richard Dawson. It's a good source of information on desktop 
publishing applied to this kind of work, though maybe a little outdated (it 
was published in 1993). I think it is still available from his website.

Regards,
Paulo

At 16:40 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Jim,
>
>I saw something recently regarding a book title ... I think?  Digital Book
>Design or Making Digital Books...something like that.
>
>Very nice book on how to go about making a digital book...from materials to
>design and layout.
>
>If you don't have any luck, get back to me off list and I will introduce you
>to the fellow that told me about digital bookmaking.  I am sure he knows the
>title and where to obtain a copy.
>
>Regards...Craig
>-----------------------------------------------------
><http://www.craigsterling.com>http://www.craigsterling.com  "Photography 
>with a Sense of Place"
>
>
> > From: Jim Panzer <jimp@...>
> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:27:54 -0700
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> "'DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com'"<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@
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> > Subject: [Digital BW] book or album???
> >
> >
> > I am going to try and make a book, or album type thing for my
> > parents.  I was going to see if anyone had any information on this?  I was
> > looking for info on-line but couldn't find any.  I was thinking if I can't
> > find a way to make a book with my digital prints maybe I could just put 
> them
> > in some sort of nice looking binder, not sure if something like that exists
> > though.  Any help would be great, thanks!
> >
> > Jim P
> >
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Re: [Digital BW] book or album???

2002-10-10 by Kip Babington

I've been making books of photos for the last 22 years, to give as 
Christmas presents to grandparents, uncles, etc.  My images, all B&W, are 
printed 8x8 (actually 7.5x7.5, leaving quarter inch borders) on the right 
end of landscape 8x10 photo paper.  The pages are trimmed to 8x8.5, leaving 
essentially a half inch binding margin on the left.  For binding I use the 
plastic comb style binding system - the one that has a string of 
rectangular holes.  (Office Max and other such places sell the machines 
that punch the holes and spread the plastic combs out while you fit the 
pages and covers on.)  For covers I use mat board (cut 8.5x8.75, to give a 
bit of overhang on the top, bottom and right of the photo stack.)  I use 
orange for Christmas books, and blue for the occasional book I make up for 
other occasions, like the books I made of high school theatrical 
productions that my kids were in.  Sometimes I'll make up a little book of 
4x5s, like I did recently to give a friend some pix I took at his 50th 
birthday party - much nicer than just giving him a envelope, and with the 
supplies on hand and the binding machine available,  a very simple project 
to put together

These are not terribly elegant things, but they are clearly all produced 
and constructed by me, and have become the most anticipated gifts each 
year.  Once you have the punch/binding machine the supplies are really 
quite inexpensive (and I don't think the punches are actually all that 
expensive themselves - but you do want to use the kind where you can enable 
or disable each hole punch individually.)  I make 8 or 9 books each 
Christmas, and they vary from 30 to 180 pictures in each (not everybody 
gets the same shots - my brother doesn't get many pix of my kids, and my 
mother in law doesn't get many pix of my brother's kids, etc.)  This will 
be the first year that I've done some of these pictures digitally - the 
first half of the year is all on film, and since July it's been all 
digital.  Going to be interesting to try to match the image tones in this 
year's books.  Next year I expect everything to be digital, and image tone 
can be whatever I think looks good.  FYI, the digital prints will be on 
Ilford Smooth Gloss paper from a Canon S9000 printer, using the Canon color 
inks.  (I'm going to try some bulk filled cartridges as soon as the current 
Canon ones run out, to see if I can cut the cost down - the Canon inks have 
given some VERY nice B&W results on this paper, at least to my eyes, and I 
think I can come pretty close to the look of the Ilford Multigrade RC that 
I use in the chemical darkroom.)

Hope this helps.  Drop me a note off list if you have any detail questions 
about my process.

Cheers,
Kip

At 10/9/2002 01:27 PM -0700, Jim P wrote:
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>         I am going to try and make a book, or album type thing for my
>parents.  I was going to see if anyone had any information on this?  I was
>looking for info on-line but couldn't find any.  I was thinking if I can't
>find a way to make a book with my digital prints maybe I could just put them
>in some sort of nice looking binder, not sure if something like that exists
>though.  Any help would be great, thanks!

RE: [Digital BW] book or album???

2002-10-15 by Alessandro Pardi

Exactly what I've been looking after in the last weeks. Actually I was
hoping to find a DIY process to make bindings with metal wire spirals rather
than plastic, because they definitely look better, but it seems that (at
least here in Italy) you have to stick with A4 format at most, while my plan
was to print in square format using A3+ sheets (11").
Anyone knows if this is possible?
 
thanks,
Alessandro Pardi
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From: Kip Babington [mailto:cbabing3@...]


I've been making books of photos for the last 22 years, to give as 
Christmas presents to grandparents, uncles, etc.  My images, all B&W, are 
printed 8x8 (actually 7.5x7.5, leaving quarter inch borders) on the right 
end of landscape 8x10 photo paper.  The pages are trimmed to 8x8.5, leaving 
essentially a half inch binding margin on the left.  For binding I use the 
plastic comb style binding system - the one that has a string of 
rectangular holes.  
 
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These are not terribly elegant things ... <snip> 



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RE: [Digital BW] book or album???

2002-10-16 by Alessandro Pardi

Hi Kip,

thanks for your answer. I think you're right, wire spirals are made in a
different way that probably requires huge machines.
Given that my idea was to print mostly for my own pleasure, and possibly for
a portfolio, I may end up carrying the prints to a professional binder (the
cost would likely be negligible compared to the time/effort/cost of printing
13x13 inches B&W quadtones!).

bye,
Alessandro

Re: [Digital BW] book or album???

2002-10-16 by Peter Marquis-Kyle

Alessandro Pardi wrote
> Hi Kip,
>
> thanks for your answer. I think you're right, wire spirals are made in a
> different way that probably requires huge machines.

There are small hand-operated desktop machines that punch a line of holes in the
edge of the sheet, then crimp a wire comb.

I have used a Renz ring wire binder: http://www.renz.com/
video demo: http://www.delran.com/equipment/renz/binddemo.mov

And a Wire-o binder: http://www.wire-o.com

And there are other brands...

Peter Marquis-Kyle

RE: [Digital BW] book or album???

2002-10-21 by Alessandro Pardi

Thanks a lot Peter,
 
a bit expensive for the casual user, but that's what I was looking for.
 
Alessandro Pardi
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From: Peter Marquis-Kyle [mailto:petermk@...]
Sent: mercoledì 16 ottobre 2002 14.32
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] book or album???


Alessandro Pardi wrote
> Hi Kip,
>
> thanks for your answer. I think you're right, wire spirals are made in a
> different way that probably requires huge machines.

There are small hand-operated desktop machines that punch a line of holes in
the
edge of the sheet, then crimp a wire comb.

I have used a Renz ring wire binder: http://www.renz.com/
<http://www.renz.com/> 
video demo: http://www.delran.com/equipment/renz/binddemo.mov
<http://www.delran.com/equipment/renz/binddemo.mov> 

And a Wire-o binder: http://www.wire-o.com <http://www.wire-o.com> 

And there are other brands...

Peter Marquis-Kyle




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