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Print Review, for the February Print Exchange

Print Review, for the February Print Exchange

2003-02-23 by Jerry Olson

To the Group,

critique of the February Print Exchange; My 2\ufffd worth...  Jerry

Gary Benson: Eagle River, Alaska

Beautiful Print, Gary. The black and white one is much better than the 
color print on the reverse. The tones match
the paper very nicely.  You might try just a smidgeon more shadow detail 
in the right foreground.

Tom DeCarlo: 'Shadowing the Man in Plastic Bags'

I guess I just don't "get" this picture. I can't pick out anyone in 
plastic bags no matter how closely I look.  I think
that there ought to be something in all photographs that is very sharp, 
and this one looks completely out of focus
all over.  This is the first time I've seen Epson Fine Art Velvet paper; 
it is beautiful. THe inkset matches the paper
very well. There are so many inksets out there now. I hadn't heard of 
FSN E inks before.

Shilesh Jani: 'Dreams'

Shilesh! you didn't include any data at all, You must start doing that 
Inquiring minds need to know how you make your
prints!  I suspect the only difference is the two papers you used for 
the duplicate prints. One appears to be
Eclipse Bright White Satine, and the thicker one Photo Rag?  I VERY much 
prefer the one on Eclipse Satine. This
image looks much better on the pure white paper. This is a beautiful 
image, grainless, and really sharp. A winner!

Thomas Fors: 'Deadwood'

This appropriately named picture is flawless. The print qualify is 
perfect, I don't see how it could be improved.
This is the first example of a 2200 print that really shows what that 
printer can do that I've seen. Dead on neutrals,
and absolutely NO metamerism.  I sure wish it were possible to get this 
quality from the 2200 printer without
Image print. That software is just too expensive and difficult to use 
for me.

Tony Terlecki: 'Saddam on a Stick'

It must be the times we live in, but I really like this picture. Nice 
title.  The Head could stand just a hair more contrast I
think, it doesn't have a bright enough highlight. If you made the stick 
perfectly vertical it would improve
the image. One other thing might improve it, but that would be beyond 
your control... A pigeon in the process of
releasing a "wad" on the top of the head would make my day!

David Tilson: 'Willows'

A pleasant fall scene, using sidelighting. You might want to try a print 
where the
foreground might be just a little lighter and a bit contrastier. There 
seems to be plenty of detail in the foreground
to work with. I like the inclusion of the old manure spreader.

Kevin Gulstene: 'Mums in Pots'

The soft lighting works very well on a lot of still life photographs, 
including this one. Nicely lit. Very nice
composition, also. I think the print could stand a little sharpening 
though. Also, if you had one, a soft back light spotlight
could have possibly grazed the leaves on the mum in the pot, as well as 
the right side of the pot itself. Not a strong
light, just enough to separate them from the dark background

Jeremy Cox: Untitled II

This is an excellently composed photograph, and the best of the group 
shown on the data sheet. Nicely lit,
too. Paper and tones are a good match. I like this image a little bit 
more than the hand shot of last months exchange.

Tom Jow: 'Charles Bridge, Prague'

This is a beautiful landscape, very well printed. Very dream like.  I've 
often wondered what kind of results you would
get with a ten stop neutral density filter, Now I know, and I love it. 
I'll be getting one soon. This print also proves
you don't need to spend the money on Photo Rag to get that paper's 
quality. The blacks are terrific. Nicely done Tom !

Old San Ysidro Church: Roger Sopher

Very nice arcitectural study of a very interesting  church.  Nice 
selection of inks and paper. The only thing
I can think of that might show off the church a little better would be 
to select all of the shadows, make a duplicate
layer, place it over the top of this layer, and use the screen mode. 
This will lighten all the shadows quite a bit. You
would then have to lower that layers opacity to about 50 percent or so. 
You just need a little more shadow detail.

Sam McCandless: 'Naru Statue'

This is a face only a blind person could love! (Except for Photographers 
who couldn't resist it!)  I think the print has
a very nice sepia tone. I've printed an accidental print or two, 
forgetting to set one of Paul's Curves, but the tones
I get aren't this pleasant. The only thing I'd like to see is a sharper 
print, but I imagine that's not possible with
the computer, as I suspect the original wasn't perfectly sharp.

Tom O'connell: 'Dahlia in Vase'

Here's a print that looks much nicer in black and white than color, I 
think.  Someday I have to look up what a bibble
is. I've heard it mentioned a couple times, but have no idea of what it 
is.  The Dahlia appears to be almost illuminated
in it's black and white interpretation. Looks like there's a light 
behind the flower, which enhances it a lot. Nice
separation between the dark red flower petals and the background.
Once again EAM paper shows how good the blacks can be on this paper. I'm 
getting similar blacks on the new EEM
paper.

Bob Morrison: 'Tres Hombres'

A nice Available light shot in what appears to be a very dim bar. I 
think the faces could be selected, and
a touch more contrast used here. Just a little. Like the little print on 
the back of the photograph has. Keep
the rest of the print as is.

Gary Benson: 'Gower Gulch'

Nicely textured photo. I've been to Zabrieski Point, and know the 
problems of getting a good print of this
place, it seems to always have excess contrast.  I think I would have 
made the rear hills a bit lighter, and the
foreground highlights just a hair darker to even out the large 
light/dark ratio.	

Anyhoo, this is is my 4 cents worth. (inflation).

Jerry

Epson RIP vs ImagePrint 5

2003-02-25 by Dan Honemann <dan_honemann@yahoo.com>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Thomas Fors: 'Deadwood'
> 
> This appropriately named picture is flawless. The print qualify is 
> perfect, I don't see how it could be improved.
> This is the first example of a 2200 print that really shows what 
> that printer can do that I've seen. Dead on neutrals,
> and absolutely NO metamerism.  I sure wish it were possible to get
> this quality from the 2200 printer without Image print. That
> software is just too expensive and difficult to use for me.

I would love to hear comparisons of the same image printed on the 
same paper, one using the new Epson RIP and the other using Image 
Print 5.  Would those who own these RIPs be willing to do this for 
the next print exchange?

From the latest reports, it would seem the Epson RIP may cure the 
metamerism problem of the standard driver and produce neutral grays, 
but without IP's ability to tone (though this can be done in PS--if, 
that is, the Epson RIP can be made to work without converting to 
grayscale).  I don't know if the Epson RIP affords any advantage when 
printing in color, as IP is purported to do.  

Both RIPs sound somewhat problematic to install and use.  At less 
than half the price of IP5, the Epson RIP addresses half of Jerry's 
complaint, even if it's just as (or more) difficult to get up and 
running properly.  But I'd like to know if the Epson RIP can produce 
image quality on par with that described above using IP.  

Dan

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